Ken- ive been using the US counterpart that is silicate and phosphate free- the orange prestone of havoline for 4 year on my inline four Golf engine. No leaks- no overheating .  

Robert

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Von: Kenneth Wilford
Gesendet: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:55 AM
An: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Betreff: Re: morons (red coolant)

Just FYI but not too long ago my sister needed some red coolant for her '98
Golf.  I found a supplier for this red coolant which is what VW puts in all
of the new Jettas/Golfs.  It is supposed to be a lifetime coolant.  I have
it for $8 a 1.5 liter bottle (VW dealer wants $15 a bottle).  It is called
Pentosin.  Anyone have an opinion on this stuff for use in the Vanagon?  It
is Phosphate and Silicate free.

Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
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Phone: (856)-327-4936
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Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 7:01 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: morons

At 11:42 AM 8/22/02 -0400, SpaceKommander wrote:
>He mentioned that you MUST use VW coolant as the sensors were calibrated
>for it. He said even the Fuel Injection could be screwed up if I used
>something else for coolant. Coolant/water ratio was also imporant.
>Look, it's an extra $10.00 per gallon. How much do you use? An extra $10
>per year seems a good investment if it just might help solve some of my
>engine/cooling problems.
>He said the Vanagons in Germany did not have the head gasket problems we
>did. Is it cooling related? Cooldown after highway related? Whatever.
>Trying to save $10 by buying green prestone or whatever seems like
nonsense.
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I've been using Havoline Dex-Cool Phosphate-Free (the orange stuff) for
over 5 years now (flushed and replaced about 2 years ago when my GERMAN
water pump bearing gave up the ghost) without a single leak ANYWHERE.  It's
nice to be able to afford the extra $10 for the OE stuff (and you probably
should use it as well), but the Dex-Cool is every bit as good as VW's IMHO.
I've never had a sensor problem, either with the needle reading or the
LED, at least related to Dex-Cool, it's always been with a low coolant
reading or too little coolant verses the water ratio (remember, pre-mix at
a 50-50 mix and you won't have problems with this).  You don't fill a
Wasserboxer the way you do yer Chevy, like pouring in straight coolant
first, then water.  My main factory VW mechanic set me straight by telling
me to pre-mix it in 1 gallon jugs before pouring it in.  Works for me
everytime.

As per usual, I think the rep is blowin' smoke, but he's prolly tryin' to
protect his backside as well.

But stay away from the GREEN Prestone, it's not worth the $$$ you'll spend
later on possible repairs.

JIm
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