Thanks for reminding me Robert.  It says "Made in Germany" on the bottles of
the Pentosin...got to stop writing now, the phones are ringing off of the
hook...Yes that will be six bottles for you...five bottles and a gallon of
German distilled water, I think we can handle that...

Thanks,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
http://www.vanagain.com
Phone: (856)-327-4936
Fax: (856)-327-2242

  -----Original Message-----
  From: warmerwagen@hotmail.com [mailto:warmerwagen@hotmail.com]
  Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:44 PM
  To: Kenneth Wilford; Vanagon .com
  Subject: AW: morons (red coolant)

  Ken- ive been using the US counterpart that is silicate and phosphate
free- the orange prestone of havoline for 4 year on my inline four Golf
engine. No leaks- no overheating .

  Robert

    ----- Urspr�ngliche Nachricht -----
    Von: Kenneth Wilford
    Gesendet: Friday, August 23, 2002 7:55 AM
    An: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
    Betreff: Re: morons (red coolant)

    Just FYI but not too long ago my sister needed some red coolant for her
'98
    Golf.  I found a supplier for this red coolant which is what VW puts in
all
    of the new Jettas/Golfs.  It is supposed to be a lifetime coolant.  I
have
    it for $8 a 1.5 liter bottle (VW dealer wants $15 a bottle).  It is
called
    Pentosin.  Anyone have an opinion on this stuff for use in the Vanagon?
It
    is Phosphate and Silicate free.

    Thanks,
    Ken Wilford
    John 3:16
    http://www.vanagain.com
    Phone: (856)-327-4936
    Fax: (856)-327-2242

    -----Original Message-----
    Wrom: ESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYUCDDJBLVLMHA Behalf
    Of The Old Volks Home
    Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 7:01 PM
    To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
    Subject: Re: morons

    At 11:42 AM 8/22/02 -0400, SpaceKommander wrote:
    >He mentioned that you MUST use VW coolant as the sensors were
calibrated
    >for it. He said even the Fuel Injection could be screwed up if I used
    >something else for coolant. Coolant/water ratio was also imporant.
    >Look, it's an extra $10.00 per gallon. How much do you use? An extra
$10
    >per year seems a good investment if it just might help solve some of my
    >engine/cooling problems.
    >He said the Vanagons in Germany did not have the head gasket problems
we
    >did. Is it cooling related? Cooldown after highway related? Whatever.
    >Trying to save $10 by buying green prestone or whatever seems like
    nonsense.
    ************************************
    I've been using Havoline Dex-Cool Phosphate-Free (the orange stuff) for
    over 5 years now (flushed and replaced about 2 years ago when my GERMAN
    water pump bearing gave up the ghost) without a single leak ANYWHERE.
It's
    nice to be able to afford the extra $10 for the OE stuff (and you
probably
    should use it as well), but the Dex-Cool is every bit as good as VW's
IMHO.
    I've never had a sensor problem, either with the needle reading or the
    LED, at least related to Dex-Cool, it's always been with a low coolant
    reading or too little coolant verses the water ratio (remember, pre-mix
at
    a 50-50 mix and you won't have problems with this).  You don't fill a
    Wasserboxer the way you do yer Chevy, like pouring in straight coolant
    first, then water.  My main factory VW mechanic set me straight by
telling
    me to pre-mix it in 1 gallon jugs before pouring it in.  Works for me
    everytime.

    As per usual, I think the rep is blowin' smoke, but he's prolly tryin'
to
    protect his backside as well.

    But stay away from the GREEN Prestone, it's not worth the $$$ you'll
spend
    later on possible repairs.

    JIm
    84 Westy 2.1
    "Ole Putt"
    68 Beetle
    "Xavier"
    73 Ghia Coupe
    "The Last Project"
    jimt@oldvolkshome.com
    jim96003@c-zone.net
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