

| Subject: | Re: Custom Scoop Update - Should you care! |
| From: | Clive Smith |
| Date: | Thu, 22 Aug 2002 23:29:28 +0100 |
Alistair, Just be aware that as : a) Water has a different visosity than air; b) the Reynolds No. (non-dimensional number controlling viscous flow behaviour) of a model in water bears no relation to that of a full sized vehicle in air - ------- you are unlikley to come to any useful conclusions using your flume tunnel. However, tufting your van and using mirrors or a camera to observe the flow might be more worthwhile- but your conclusions from what you see - again - might not. Regards, Clive '88 Syncro Transporter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@UVIC.CA> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: Re: Custom Scoop Update - Should you care! > Regarding scoops laminar flow and slipstreams etc > > I have to say form the limited experience I have had this summer building > and testing a research flume (sort of like a air tunnel but using water > instead of air), fluid dynamics is (for those of us limited in math and with > no access to super computers) very much an empirical practice. > > While you can look at a model/set up and make some predictions as how the > fluid will flow around/through it, often it will be very surprising to see > the flow in reality. > > Time restraints will probably preclude this but I want to build my Revell > Vanagon model and stick it in the flume to watch the flow around it! > > Years ago the list was discussing flow around the van etc, all kinds of > crazy and neat ideas surfaced. I had the idea of sticking little yarn > "tell-tales" (tell-tails?) all over the van then driving at various speeds > in still air and see (via chase van) just how the air flowed over the > shoebox. > > Alistair > > > > on 8/22/02 10:11 AM, 80 Westy Pokey wrote: > > > OK, I "Googled" and stole this from: > > http://www.aviation-history.com/theory/lam-flow.htm&e=653 > > Then applied the principals to our Vans:
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