----- Original Message -----
From: "Clarence J Falarski" <lamont@mindspring.com>
To: "GARY VANAGON" <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:09 PM
Subject: Re: window vents

> Hello Cary:
>
> I think what we have here is a misunderstanding about the price. I e
mailed
> you personally about the 20 or 25 bucks for the purchase of the vents
> that's why we do not find the purchase price mentioned on the vanagon
> postings.
>
> Our agreement was, I would ship you the vents  after you sent me 5 dollars
> for the shipping charges and you would see if you could make them work, if
> you could you would send me the purchase price, 20 or 25 bucks I do not
> remember,  I think it was 20 but  I'm not sure. I really hope that you
> didn't think that I would pay $ 49.95 plus shipping from eurocampers for
the
> vents  then give them away for $ 5 shipping only.
>
> If you look at your e to me dated  July 1 you say, " I would sure like to
> try them on my van, I would of course pay shipping ".
>
> July 2 you ask " would you be willing to send them to me for shipping
> charges only ?".  If you thought I was giving them to you for the shipping
> charges only,  why would you ask me that  question, of course I would ship
> them if that were the only charge ?????  Also when you say "shipping
charges
> only"  there must be another charge.
>
> After we had agreed on the price and agreed that you would try them prior
to
> sending me the purchase price on July 5  I say " I would be glad to send
> them to you for the up front shipping , up front being the key words.
>
> July 11 you write " so I can send you the  $ 5 for shipping". Notice you
say
> shipping only.
>
> BUT PERHAPS THE MOST OBVIOUS EVIDENCE   THAT  I  TOLD YOU ABOUT THE 20 OR
25
> DOLLAR CHARGE WAS MY ANSWER TO YOUR  E  DATED JULY 11  WHEN I SAY.
>
> " SHIPPING,  I WOULD USE UPS, I HAVEN'T A CLUE ON COST  I  THINK $ 5.00
> WOULD COVER IT AND IF THEIR WERE ANY OVER PAYMENT I WOULD CREDIT YOUR
> PURCHASE."
>
> Cary. if there were no purchase price what would I be crediting.
>
> Perhaps  before there are any bad feelings the best solution would be for
> you to return my vents and I will send you the $ 5.00 for the shipping
> costs. Of course the choice is yours. In any case the cost of the vents if
> you want them is still $ 20.00.
>
> You have my telephone number if you choose to call me.
> regards.
> clarence.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cary Chiang" <cchiang1@yahoo.com>
> To: "Clarence J Falarski" <lamont@mindspring.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:09 PM
> Subject: Re: window vents
>
>
> > Clarence:
> > I found our original posts (included below).  Please note my post to you
> > dated July 2nd, in which I ask if you would be willing to send me the
> > vents for the cost of shipping only, and your reply in which you stated
> > you would "be happy to".  I understood from your original post to the
> > list, that you were throwing them into the trash.  I offered to pay you
> > the cost of shipping, to obtain them.  There was never a mention of
> > additional costs from you.
> >
> > Cary
> >
> > --- Clarence J Falarski <lamont@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > > Hello Cary:
> > >
> > > No I do not do pay pal.
> > > I can send the vents thru the post office, more than likely should not
> > > be more than a few bucks.
> > > Regards.
> > > Clarence Falarski
> > > po box 4503
> > > Pinehurst, NC. 28374
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Cary Chiang
> > >   To: Clarence J Falarski
> > >   Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 7:56 PM
> > >   Subject: Re: Vanagon question
> > >
> > >
> > >   Hi Clarence:
> > >
> > >   I have decided that I definitely want your wind deflectors.  Please
> > > let me know if you use Paypal or not, so I  can send you the $5 for
> > > shipping.  BTW, you might want to look into US post office Priority
> > > Mail.  Even with the latest rate increase, they are usually cheaper
than
> > > UPS / Fedex on light weight stuff, and even supply boxes for free
> > > (though the deflectors may not fit in the boxes they offer).  I may be
> > > out of town for about a week, but will check e-mail occasionally.
> > > Please let me know.  Thanks.
> > >
> > >   Cary
> > >
> > >     Clarence J Falarski <lamont@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Greetings  Cary
> > >     Shipping, I would usr UPS and I haven't a clue on cost .
> > >     I think $ 5.00
> > >     would cover it and if their was any overpayment I would credit you
> > > purchace.
> > >     910-295-5934
> > >     regards.
> > >     Clarence Falarski
> > >     po. box 4503
> > >     Pinehurst, NC. 28374
> > >
> > >
> > >       ----- Original Message -----
> > >       From: Cary Chiang
> > >       To: Clarence J Falarski
> > >       Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 6:25 PM
> > >       Subject: Re: Vanagon question
> > >
> > >
> > >       Hi Clarence:
> > >
> > >       I mistakenly thought that Frank Condelli sold these items, but
he
> > > doesn't.  I was actually confusing him with the Eurocampers site.  I
> > > believe that Go Westy.com has a similar product.  I am very interested
> > > in the vent shades.  How much would it cost to ship them to me in
> > > Austin, TX 78727?  I have been trying to reach a local Vanagon owner
who
> > > previously told me he bought an identical set, just to see how he
likes
> > > them, and to see in person how they fit and how well they function.
> > > Alas, he is out of town for possibly another week or so on a Westy
> > > cruise to the NorthWest!  Can we wait, or is time of the essence?  I
> > > don't want to lose my chance on these.
> > >
> > >       Cary
> > >
> > >         Clarence J Falarski <lamont@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >         Good morning Cary:
> > >
> > >         I ordered theses vent shades from www.eurocampers.com
> > >         and they are really very nice. They are tinted and allow the
> > > window to be lowered 3 or 4 inches.
> > >
> > >         I broke the edges off of only one of the vent shades, it still
> > > was held very snugly by the top edge and they stay wedged in the
window
> > > very well  w/o the sides in place.
> > >         These do not slip down the window channel at all. They
> > >         attach by fitting between the window channel and the door
body.
> > >         I would be happy to send them to you for the up front shipping
> > > charges. If you do not like them I would want them returned.
> > >         No. I no longer have the box.
> > >
> > >         Cary, has something happened to the vanagon site?
> > >         I am no longer getting any postings?
> > >
> > >         Please give me the other sites that you mentioned  that sell
the
> > > other shades.
> > >         good morning.
> > >         regards.
> > >         c.
> > >           ----- Original Message -----
> > >           From: Cary Chiang
> > >           To: Clarence J Falarski
> > >           Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 9:29 PM
> > >           Subject: Re: Vanagon question
> > >
> > >
> > >           Hi Clarence:
> > >
> > >           A few more questions for you:
> > >
> > >           What company did you buy them from, and what brand name are
> > > they?  I would like to find them on the internet, if possible, to get
> > > more info.  I ask because I heard that certain vendors and/or brands
(I
> > > think there are two of them, Go Westy and Frank Condorelli) sell
these,
> > > and one of them fits great (without slipping down the window channel
> > > when the window is down), and the other brand is very loose and sloppy
> > > fitting.
> > >
> > >           Did you break the edges off of one or both items, and how
will
> > > the broken one attach without the channel parts being present?  I have
> > > seen a picture of these (I think) on Frank's site, but am not sure
> > > exactly how they attach to the window frame.
> > >
> > >           Do these items allow the window to be lowered only about 1
or
> > > 2 two inches at most?
> > >
> > >           Would you be willing to send them to me for shipping costs
> > > only, and do you have a preference of which company, post office, UPS,
> > > or Fedex?  And do you have the box, still?
> > >
> > >           Thanks again, and sorry for all the questions!
> > >
> > >           Cary
> > >
> > >             Clarence J Falarski <lamont@mindspring.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >             Cary:
> > >
> > >             I paid $ 49.95 plus shipping for them.
> > >
> > >             After taking them out I purposly broke off the side pieces
> > > that fit in the side of the window frames. I thought that might help
but
> > > then decided that I didn't want to risk it again. The one that I took
> > > the edges off will still work fine however and once installed look
> > > perfect..
> > >             Let me know.
> > >             regards.
> > >             clarence.................
> > >
> > >               ----- Original Message -----
> > >               From: Cary Chiang
> > >               To: lamont@MINDSPRING.COM
> > >               Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 9:50 PM
> > >               Subject: Vanagon question
> > >
> > >
> > >               Clarence:
> > >
> > >               I'm sure I'm too late, but if you still have the window
> > > vent plastic thingys in the trash, I'd sure like to try them on my
van.
> > > I would of course pay shipping.  Please let me know.  Thanks!
> > >
> > >               Cary
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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