

| Subject: | Re: Dog Dog Dog |
| From: | Jack |
| Date: | Tue, 3 Sep 2002 21:58:25 -0700 |
On a backpack into the eastern Sierras (California mountains) a few years ago, we has a large black bear make a sweep through our camp late one night. One of our group had 2 dogs in her tent. Both stayed nice & quiet including the dobermann. I was surprised, but I guess, the dogs were smarter than I gave them credit for. //Jack On 3 Sep 2002, at 21:28, David Marshall wrote: > In this area they say leave your dog as home. Usually if a dog sees a bear, > it will run back to you for protection! :) > > David Marshall > > Fast Forward Automotive Inc. > 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road > Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 > > http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca > Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 > > - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions > - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation > - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of Meghan Davis > Sent: September 3, 2002 4:48 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Dog Dog Dog > > > There was a story up here really recently about a guy who got attacked by a > grizzly and the only thing that saved him was his German Shepherd, who was > also okay. Maybe it would be a good Idea to put bells on the dogs like they > tell people to wear. Usually a bear will try to leave people alone and it's > only when they are surprised that it becomes a problem. Usually. Anyways, > everybody I know has dogs and spends quite a bit of time in the middle of > nowhere and the dogs are fine. Where I commercial fish, bears often come > down the bank and all of us fisherpeople have dogs wandering. I've never > heard of anyone having a problem. No big thing. Megh > > > >From: Harmon Seaver <hseaver@CYBERSHAMANIX.COM> > >Reply-To: Harmon Seaver <hseaver@CYBERSHAMANIX.COM> > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >Subject: Re: dogs to alaska? > >Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:14 -0500 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >Received: from mc2-f12.law16.hotmail.com ([65.54.237.19]) by hotmail.com > >with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Tue, 3 Sep 2002 14:19:55 -0700 > >Received: from gerry.vanagon.com ([66.95.48.130]) by > >mc2-f12.law16.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5600); Tue, 3 Sep > >2002 14:09:05 -0700 > >Received: from gerry (gerry.vanagon.com) by gerry.vanagon.com (LSMTP for > >Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.FBAF22C3@gerry.vanagon.com>; Tue, 3 Sep > >2002 17:08:16 -0400 > >Received: from GERRY.VANAGON.COM by GERRY.VANAGON.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP > >release 1.8d) with spool id 741180 for vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; > >Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:08:16 -0400 > >Received: from cybershamanix.com > >(adsl-64-108-120-47.dsl.applwi.ameritech.net) by gerry.vanagon.com > >(LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id > ><0.FBAF22BE@gerry.vanagon.com>; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 17:04:13 -0400 > >Received: (from hseaver@localhost) by cybershamanix.com (8.11.0/8.11.6) id > > g83K7EN15941; Tue, 3 Sep 2002 15:07:14 -0500 > >References: <8c.1d942f4f.2aa64e30@aol.com> > ><20020903170352.GA15540@cybershamanix.com> > ><044601c25389$5bc07640$319c4094@BILLPC> > >User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i > >Message-ID: <20020903200714.GB15890@cybershamanix.com> > >Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com> > >Comments: To: Bill N <freeholder@STARBAND.NET> > >In-Reply-To: <044601c25389$5bc07640$319c4094@BILLPC> > >Return-Path: owner-vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Sep 2002 21:09:06.0030 (UTC) > >FILETIME=[232B58E0:01C2538E] > > > >On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 01:34:47PM -0700, Bill N wrote: > > > Dogs will keep black bears out of your camp, but grizzlies will come in > >just to kill and eat > > > the dog. > > > > We had grizzlies around where we lived in BC, they never seemed > >interested > >in our dogs, or our horses, goats, or chickens, for that matter. And we > >used to > >see fresh griz track in the sandbars along the river right near the > >cabin. Personally I'd always prefer to have a dog along in bear country. If > >nothing else, the dog will keep the bear busy for while. I had a friend who > >survived a griz attack -- the griz came up at night while they were > >sleeping (no > >tent, and just blankets and ground cloth) and grabbed my friend, lifted him > >off > >the ground and started ripping at him. What saved him was the blanket got > >caught > >in the bears teeth and went over his head and he dropped the guy and stood > >there > >trying to get the blanket off his head, where upon my friend and his wife > >got > >up in some trees. You should see the scars. > > A dog would have alerted them a long time before the bear got near. > >And > >probably scared the bear away -- > > > > > >-- > >Harmon Seaver > >CyberShamanix > >http://www.cybershamanix.com > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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