Never been burnt, either buying or selling, on the list.

Rarely off list either.

I don't worry about it, not worth the aggravation.

Mike

On 9/6/02 2:40 PM, "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@JUNO.COM> wrote:

> Oh Crap! Lets not get into list member bashing.
> I'm an old fart and I've had so many deals go South I could retire on the
> money that went bad.
>
> Stan Wilder
>
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 17:04:48 -0400 80 Westy Pokey <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
> writes:
>> With the exception of a few listees who I know very well I
>> don't think I would ever send anybody anything without
>> getting payment up front.
>>
>> If you really want to sell something, and they don't want to
>> pay up front consider using an escrow service like:
>>
>> http://www.escrow.com
>>
>> In this way the buyer pays the third party, the seller ships
>> the goods to the buyer, the buyer then has a short period of
>> time to inspect the goods, at which point they release the
>> funds to the seller. A pretty safe way to do things. Of
>> course there is a cost involved, but its really "the price of
>> insurance".
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
>> ---- Original message ----
>>> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:44:13 -0400
>>> From: Clarence J Falarski <lamont@MINDSPRING.COM>
>>> Subject: Selling on the Vanagon site. ( a lesson )
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>
>>> Fellow listies
>>>
>>> More then two months ago I sold some window vents thru the
>> Vanagon list to a person named Cary Chiang
>>> (  I do not know if Cary is a woman or a man )  who lives at
>> 12304 Bedrock Trail in Austin Texas , 78727.
>>>
>>> Evidently Cary has somehow misunderstood the price of a set
>> of window vents I sold her or him. I have tried to e Cary at
>> both his or her p mail and on the Vanagon site and suggested
>> that we cancel the whole deal rather than have any bad
>> feelings about anything. I suggested that she or he  return
>> my vents and I will return the $ 5.00 for shipping.  I cannot
>> get any response what so ever  from this person and this has
>> been going on now for over  2 months.
>>>
>>> I paid $ 49.95 plus shipping for the vents to Eurocampers
>> two  weeks prior to our agreement. Cary asked me to ship them
>> and she or he would see if they would be ok, and if they
>> were  a check for the purchase price would follow . Cary sent
>> me $ 5.00 for shipping, has received the vents 6 or 7 weeks
>> ago. When I did ask for the $$$ that were owed on the vents
>> the reply was  that the
>>> $ 5.00 was the only cost involved .The actual cost of the
>> vents to Cary was either  $20.00 or $ 25. 00.
>>> I told him or her  that $ 20.00 would be fine .
>>>
>>> I think this might be  a cheap lesson for me and a lesson
>> for everyone else on the list. DO NOT SHIP ANYTHING UNTIL YOU
>> HAVE ALL THE FUNDS FOR WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU MIGHT BE
>> SELLING.........
>>>
>>> Cary if you read this and choose to send me the balance owed
>> that will be fine. If you want your $ 5.00 for shipping
>>> returned then return my vents.
>>> If you decide either way I will post it on the list..
>>>
>>> clarence.
>>> Pinehurst. NC.
>>> 1990 westy
>>
>
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