Looking forward to your post Stan. Since I changed my subscription account
to olists I was unable to post a response earlier. Here's my attempt from a
week ago.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Owen Brand" <owen@thebrands.org>
To: "Joel Cort" <joel_cort@YAHOO.COM>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [Syncro] Front AC installation - GROUP PURCHASE >>> LAST
CALL

> Thanks for the further insight. I did check the archives prior to posting
my
> questions. I didn't understand that Jerry built the whole system
(excluding
> the compressor). His sounds like an excellent system. Since the cost for
> mine would be >$900 + for the parts alone my miserly side is speaking to
me
> (You don't need no stinkin ac, it's almost fall, it will be cool, drove it
> 2500 miles with no air in August and loved it, etc).  Jerry's shop is
> actually just about 4 hours north of me near the Dallas /Ft Worth
metroplex.
> I will hold out for the cooler fall and winter and then wind up bribing
> others on the list with cheap tequila as I assemble the required 10 next
> spring.
>
> Thanks again for offering so late in the process.
> Owen

----- Original Message -----
From: "80 Westy Pokey" <pokey@VANAGON.ORG>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Syncro] Front AC installation - Sorry Bout That

> Stan, While you are there keep us air cooled guys in mind.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:15:25 -0500
> >From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
> >Subject: Re: [Syncro] Front AC installation - Sorry Bout
> That
> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >
> >I didn't mean to offend anybody, I'll see Jerry West at
> European Cooler
> >Air in Rockwall, TX.
> >This coming monday and report back.
> >
> >Stan
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Joel Cort
> <joel_cort@yahoo.com>
> >writes:
> >Whoo big guy,
> >to some of us $600 on car parts, in the fall/winter IS a
> big deal.  Hey I
> >can beat your water bills with my Tax bill.  I live in New
> York state and
> >we fund the rest of New York City. Did I mention 2 teen age
> kids?
> >Ok ok enough bickering amongst van owners here.
> >Stan, if you would not mind spending some time to check out
> this Jerry
> >and his operations I certainly would appreciate to get a
> bit more
> >confidence about sending my hard earned $600 out to Texas.
> >Thanks,
> >Joel in the high tax state of NY.
> > Stan Wilder wrote:
> >Don't piss on your salad here.
> >Who the hell do you think is going to waste their time with
> a bunch of VW
> >owners skimming for a good deal.
> >I live in Dallas and its about 20 minutes from Rockwall
> Texas.
> >If you want me to go out there and check out his plant I
> will.
> >You folks are acting like $600.00 is a big
> deal .............. my monthly
> >water bill is over $250.00 in the summer months and my
> light bill is over
> >$700.00 in summer months.
> >This should be last call.
> >Its a great deal and I'll actually go out to the plant if
> that's whats
> >you want.
> >I went to the John E. Mitchell A/C School in 1961 and air
> conditions
> >haven't changed a bit since then.
> >Very simple: Compressor, Condenser, Evaporator, Hoses and a
> few switches.
> >I also worked for Triangle Engineering, multiple condenser,
> and the same
> >simple system is used in 747s and Army tanks.
> >The only speciality is that it has the right dimensions to
> fit your
> >vehicle. Now that is a big deal when you start talking
> about tooling
> >costs.
> >
> >Stan Wilder
> >
> >On Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:31:36 -0700 Joel Cort
> >writes:
> >> Owen,
> >> If you go back and trace the thread of emails on this you
> will
> >> realize that this is a group order from Jerry West ...
> somewhere in
> >> Texas.
> >> Jerry builds his own AC aftermarket systems and does not
> have any
> >> pictures or partnumbers of the particular components for
> the
> >> Vanagon. He rolls his own. We are all jumping in, pretty
> much site
> >> unseen, and throwing in about 600 US greenbacks to
> attempt to get a
> >> front AC rigged up. There is a trust factor since Jerry
> appears to
> >> understand AC systems and most of all Vanagons and has a
> good
> >> solution idea, on e-mail at least.
> >> Jerry also sells a larger capacity compressor which you
> may be
> >> interested in acquiring for your defective system. There
> is probably
> >> a part number for that since this is manufactured by the
> compressor
> >> makers. The Jerry AC rig, taps into your existing AC
> piping
> >> circuit and installs under the dash, above the glove box,
> supposedly
> >> without cutting, slicing or dicing. It uses the existing
> fresh air
> >> vents. Sorry, he says, you don't need no stinking
> pictures.
> >> Since this is a custom unit, I do not think that you will
> find any
> >> "deals" in Mexico for any of these parts or components.
> Throw your
> >> $550 into our sombrero and join the club if you still
> can. We will
> >> let you drink the worm at the bottom. You too will be
> cool, not
> >> only down your neck but also in your face.
> >> Warm Cheers,
> >> Joel
> >> Loving my 89 Syncro Westy in Rochester NY
> >>
> >> Owen Brand wrote:I am fairly new to vanagons having
> purchased my
> >> first (an 84 1.9L Westy
> >> wolfsburg) in August of this year. After driving it home
> from Idaho
> >> to
> >> Texas, I am hooked for life.
> >>
> >> The AC compressor was dead when I bought it. I have been
> trying to
> >> solve the air and at the same time address the
> limitations of a rear
> >> ac. I wonder if
> >> someone has pictures of the system components from
> EuroAir and the
> >> manufacturer name / part numbers? I would like to check
> into getting
> >> this
> >> work done in Mexico (6 hours away) and this information
> would help
> >> greatly.
> >>
> >> I took my 90 Saab 900TC to a guy my father recommended in
> Matamoros,
> >> Mexico.
> >> He took apart the Saab compressor, put new seals in, used
> an off the
> >> shelf
> >> relay and thermostat and had it up and running for
> $240.00 and 3
> >> hours. My
> >> logic is that there are a gork of VW's in Mexico, the
> parts and
> >> labor should
> >> be cheaper. Any thoughts?
> >>
> >>
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Larry Chase [mailto:lchase@attglobal.net]
> >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 2:42 PM
> >> > To: Syncro@yahoogroups.com; vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com;
> >> > vanagon@yahoogroups.com; wetwesties@yahoogroups.
> >> > Cc: KimBrennan@aol.com; joel_cort@yahoo.com;
> westy6789@yahoo.com;
> >> Todd
> >> > Last; DeHanschke@aol.com; Blbachman@aol.com;
> DOINKS99@aol.com;
> >> > pbryson@extremezone.com; dave bowers; Jerry West
> >> > Subject: [Syncro] Front AC installation - GROUP
> PURCHASE >>> LAST
> >> CALL
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Folks,
> >> >
> >> > LAST CALL >>>TO GET IN ON THE GROUP PURCHASE of VANAGON
> FRONT AC
> >> KIT'S
> >> >
> >> > Supplier: Jerry West at European Cooler Air in
> Rockwall, TX.
> >> >
> >> > For background information on this THREAD ... please
> search the
> >> Vanagon.Com
> >> > archives for,
> >> >
> >> > Subject: Front AC installation INQUIRY REPORT >
> CONCLUSIONS
> >> > Subject: Front AC installation - GROUP PURCHASE INQUIRY
> >> > Subject: Front AC installation - GROUP PURCHASE INQUIRY
> STATUS
> >> >
> >> > THE GOOD NEWS:
> >> >
> >> > LIST MEMBERS HAVE COMMITTED TO BUY 11 UNITS.
> >> >
> >> > 1 for 86 Vanagon
> >> > 1 for 88 Doublecab
> >> > 3 for 88 Vanagon
> >> > 3 for 89 Vanagon
> >> > 1 for 90 Vanagon
> >> > 2 for 91 Vanagon
> >> >
> >> > NOTE:
> >> >
> >> > The regular cost for the Front 16,000 BTU AC KIT is
> $650.00
> >> >
> >> > This includes the Evaporator Assembly and all parts to
> hook it up
> >> to the
> >> OEM
> >> > system.
> >> >
> >> > If we purchase 10 OR MORE Kits, the DISCOUNT is 16% OFF
> the
> >> regular price.
> >> >
> >> > This DROPS THE PRICE TO >>> $546 a savings of $104.
> >> >
> >> > Shipping would be $32.00 via UPS.
> >> >
> >> > These Kits can be installed to an existing "good"
> compressor but
> >> Jerry
> >> > recommended replacing the stock 8 Cubic In Compressor
> with a 10
> >> Cubic In
> >> > unit.
> >> >
> >> > Cost of the 10ci COMPRESSOR is an additional $250
> >> >
> >> > The Manufacturer Jerry uses requires a "LIKE PARTS RUN"
> for a
> >> discount.
> >> >
> >> > DIFFERENT YEARS OF THE VW VANS USE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS.
> >> >
> >> > That means we have to find 10 or more "Like Enough"
> Vanagons to
> >> qualify.
> >> >
> >> > PART RUN HAS TO BE THE SAME PART LIKE THE CONDENSER
> EVAPORATOR
> >> CASES,
> >> > EVAPORATOR COIL, MOUNT/DRIVE BRACKETS ETC.
> >> >
> >> > WHERE ARE WE :
> >> >
> >> > LAST CALL >>>
> >> >
> >> > If anyone else wants in on this group purchase, PLEASE
> CONTACT ME
> >> BY
> >> > Wednesday 09.11.02.
> >> >
> >> > 1. Send me your SPECIFIC VANAGON INFO,
> >> > - Year
> >> > - Model
> >> > - Current Rear AC or Not
> >> > -Westfalia or Not
> >> > - Syncro or Not
> >> >
> >> > 2. Send your Name and shipping location
> >> >
> >> > ON THURSDAY 09.12.02 I'll submit the list to Jerry at
> EuroAir for
> >> him to
> >> > tell us if these are similar enough Vanagons to qualify
> for "Alike
> >> Units".
> >> >
> >> > As soon as Jerry responds I will get back to everyone
> with a GO or
> >> NO GO
> >> > decision.
> >> >
> >> > My expectation is I should be able to let you know by
> Friday
> >> 09.13.02
> >> >
> >> > If it's a go ... we need to send money to Jerry within
> 10-14
> >> days.
> >> >
> >> > Best Regards,
> >> >
> >> > Larry Chase
> >> >
> >> > The Great North American VW Westfalia Syncro Tour
> >> > Beginning ... 01.02.03
> >> > "RoadHaus" 1990 Westy Syncro ... Soon / Tomorrow
> >> > Mesa, AZ
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > If you would like to modify your subscription settings
> (including
> >> > unsubscribing), visit:
> >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro
> >> > Please remember that rude or offensive language is not
> allowed on
> >> the
> >> Syncro
> >> > list. Please try your best to resolve differences
> privately and
> >> keep them
> >> > off the list.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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