

| Subject: | Re: 90+ Fox engine @ 54 degrees |
| From: | Don Hundt |
| Date: | Wed, 25 Sep 2002 23:32:41 -0700 |
I have a jh engine from an 83 gti in my van, early rabbit intake, fox 4 into 1 exhaust mainfold. I didn't have to cut a thing, I did have to massage the side of the engine compartment a bit with a 3 lb. sledge. Pretty simple task altogether. Routing the plumbing from the airbox to the intake was a bit of a chore, but it turned out pretty clean and trouble free. Don 82 diesel to gti Portland, Or. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Marshall" <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 7:40 PM Subject: Re: 90+ Fox engine @ 54 degrees > I'll follow up on a few points that have been mentioned about the Fox motor. > > It is more than the exhaust manifold that makes the low 81hp output of these > motor. The compression ratio is 8.5:1 and the valve sizes are 33mm and > 38mm. For comparison the JH motor found in the Cabriolet and Scirocco is > 90hp - bigger 40mm intake valves and a little more aggressive initial > timing. In Europe this makes 95hp as they have a dual outlet manifold > attached to it. The Digifant II Jetta / Golf RV engine makes 102hp as it is > 10:1 compression ratio and has the 33/40mm valves - the PF motor is 100% > identical with the exception of a dual outlet manifold and a total of 105hp. > > Unless you install a Canadian 1.8L Golf III CL head and intake manifold you > will have to cut your frame to make it fit - the early rabbit intake > manifolds require the least amount of cutting but it is a real PITA to make > the intake system for this as it points the throttle valve to the front of > the vehicle. > > Another thing is to make sure your hydraulic lifters are in excellent shape > as they tend to fail when laid over at 50 degrees. Vibration can be an > issue at 50 degrees especially if you use the older style Diesel hardware. > > If you use a 15 degree mounting system you will not have to cut the frame on > your van. You will not have premature lifter failure. No vibrations and a > simpler exhaust system. The trade off is you have to make a box on your > engine cover to make it fit - no real big deal even if you have a bed back > there as you can get hinges that lift the seat when it is in the bed > position so everything fits. > > Just my $0.02 worth! > > David Marshall > > Fast Forward Automotive Inc. > 4356 Quesnel Hixon Road > Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3 > > http://www.fastforward.ca mailto:sales@fastforward.ca > Phone: (250) 992 7775 FAX: (250) 992 1160 > > - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions > - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation > - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf > Of john Runberg > Sent: September 24, 2002 7:21 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: 90+ Fox engine @ 54 degrees > > > Has anyone installed a 1990 or newer Fox engine into Vanagon using the > diesel mounts? Did you have to bang the sheet metal to clear the intake? I > have a line on a 90 Fox with new engine and bad tranny for a real good > price... > > john >
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