>  Like when you say 'I've changed out
>my starter motor' - whats wrong with 'I've changed my starter motor' - to
>change means a swap, in and out or out and in, so why specify the 'out' bit?
>Sorry, but our simple minds have a problem here as we just don't recognise
>what changing OUT something is as opposed to just changing it - does it
>imply the same or a different one went back in, is there any implied
>meaning, hidden or otherwise?

Pure bad English. The "out" just doesn't belong. Others:
"I bought a couple vans". Where did the "of" go?
"I could care less". This means you DO care, at least a bit. If you
mean otherwise, use "I Couldn't care less".,

>Maybe theres

...there's...

>Vanagon (yuk, detestable name isn't it).

Sure is. The marketing maneger who approved this should be have
VANAGON tattooed on his forehead in 70-point bold font and be chained
to a Hanover fence. WHY didn't they just call it Transporter in USA,
because this is exactly what it is.
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Andrew Grebneff
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