

| Subject: | Re: Battery Reserve Capacity Calculations - 2nd Posting |
| From: | Stan Wilder |
| Date: | Fri, 11 Oct 2002 22:56:40 -0500 |
You guys are really getting into this battery thing. One thing you need to consider. 1) You need to charge your battery fully before a hard trip or hard use with a regular battery charger because it can take as much as 72 hours to fully charge a battery. If you have some kind of trickle charger that you connect nightly it will do the same; fully charge your battery. Checking the battery with a hydrometer is the proper way, 1260 specific gravity if I remember right. Automobile charging circuits seldom fully charge a battery, too many variables in load, it fools the regulator. This isn't Friday crap. Stan Wilder On Fri, 11 Oct 2002 23:28:32 -0400 David Beierl <dbeierl@ATTGLOBAL.NET> writes: > At 11:04 PM 10/11/2002, Larry Chase wrote: > >I'm getting ready to do some Battery requirement calculations. > > > >Assuming a OPTIMA D750 Yellow Top Deep Cycle Battery > > > >Rated at 120 minutes of Reserve Capacity at a 25 Amp draw. > > > >Specifications. > > > >Reserve Capacity - Minutes: 124 > >Capacity (C/2 rate) - Amp Hours: 52 > >Capacity (C20 rate) - Amp Hours: 65 > > > >Am I correct in assuming that a 10 Amp Per Hour Power requirement > >would mean this battery would last 5 hours before needing a > recharge? > > Ten amps draw for one hour equals ten amp-hours, so five hours would > be > fifty amp-hours. That part's easy. Now comes the fun stuff. > > First thing is that your alternator with the installed regulator > will never > bring the battery to full charge. For thorough discussion of this > visit > http://www.amplepower.com/ and read through the discussions of > charging > available there (not always under completely obvious headings). For > your > reference, the stock regulator has a fixed setpoint of (I believe) > 14.1 > volts, measured inside the alternator and not at the battery. > > Second, a rule of thumb for most economical overall operation > (taking into > account battery life, initial cost and charging cost, but not > necessarily > the cost of hauling the weight around) is to assume that only 35% of > the > nominal capacity of the battery will be used. This depends on two > factors: > the first is that putting the last 15% of charge into a battery > takes > hours, even assuming that the regulator will do it at all. Second, > the > lifetime (in charge-discharge cycles) of a lead-acid battery is > greatly > increased (factor up to five) by not discharging it below 50%. > Hence 85% > max - 50% min = 35%. In that case you might only be able to draw > ten amps > for a bit over two hours. > > However, you may well decide to discharge farther than that, down to > a > minimum of maybe 80%. That would give you a usable capacity of [up > to] 65% > of nominal, at the expense of having many fewer charge/discharge > cycles > (for argument, say 200 instead of 1000). Doing it that way, you > might be > able to run ten amps for about 3 1/2 hours. > > Note that the Reserve Capacity rating assumes a fully charged > battery > (unlikely without external charging or enough fancy hardware that > you'll > already know the answers to this question) under ideal conditions > (unlikely), to a point where damage to the battery may be likely. > It's a > useful *relative* measurement in terms of how long you could nurse a > car > along the road drawing 25 amps after it quits charging. In fact 25 > amps is > probably more current than it's wise to draw from a battery this > size at > all (again, for best battery longevity). The typical rule of thumb > is C/4 > for conventional batteries, and maybe up to C/3 for gel and AGM > (like the > Optima) batteries. > > david > > > -- > David Beierl - Providence, RI > http://pws.prserv.net/synergy/Vanagon/ > '84 Westy "Dutiful Passage" > '85 GL "Poor Relation" > > ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
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