Shame VW don't flog off obsolescence stuff to us at $0.05/Kg, specially VC's
and gearboxes!

Clive

----- Original Message -----
From: "Stan Wilder" <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: some notes from counterman mag

> Years back when I worked for Borg Warner Ignition Division we had annual
> obsolescence returns from each distributors stock.
> Since this was in the 60s we got back stuff that was for 30s/40s/50s
> automobiles, tractors, busses, tucks and even small engine.
> After this return was completed there were always several trailer loads
> of pure ignition parts, all small stuff like points, condensers etc. Can
> you imagine how much ignition that is?
> Point being that this return was all new boxed ignition but shelf worn or
> slow movers.
> Mexican and other parts distributors bought that stuff by the pound and
> real cheap, about $0.05 a pound.
> In the same obsolesce return each division had their own; Clutches,
> Gears, Transmissions, Water Pumps, Fuel Pumps, Battery Cables, Carb Kits
> etc.
> I wasn't there when the stuff left the factory in Rockford Illinois,
> Dixon Illinois or Franklin Park Illinois but there were about 25 trailer
> loads that went out of the country each year.
> These scrap out deals weren't offered to US Distributors or even salvage
> yards; Borg Warner didn't want this stuff circling back into the
> obsolesce program the next year.
> These obsolete parts kept a lot of old cars running all over the world.
>
> Stan Wilder
>
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:15:43 -0400 Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
> writes:
> > If you think cars are expensive here, just think about this:  A
> > friend
> > of mine who is a missionary to Australia told me that over there
> > any
> > car brought into the country is subject to 100% tax (yes I said
> > 100%).
> > They say that when you buy a car you are buying one for yourself
> > and
> > one for the government.  This keeps some pretty old cars on the
> > road
> > over there.  He told me that the first van he bought over there was
> > such a piece of junk that he would have normally sent it to the
> > scrap
> > yard here.  He bought it for a little over $5000 (US) and it was
> > considered a good deal.  He said that you would be amazed at some
> > of
> > the really old cars that are still on the road, yet kept in good
> > running condition.  It is just too expensive of an investment to
> > buy
> > new.  Any Australian list members, please comment.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Wilford
> > John 3:16
> > http://www.vanagain.com
> > Phone: 856-327-4936
> > Fax: 856-327-2242
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: jimt <westydriver@TACTICAL-BUS.INFO>
> > Date: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:54 pm
> > Subject: some notes from counterman mag
> >
> > > look at these figures keepin in mind three things
> > > 1.  sixties era buses
> > > 2. seventies era buses
> > > 3, vanagon series
> > > and how many miles some complain they never get out of engines
> > > jimt
> > >
> > > 1960 avg vehicle survived 92kmiles before scrapping
> > > 1970 - 105k
> > > 1980 - 132k
> > > 1990 - 191k
> > >
> > > 1970 15 percent of vehicles 10 yrs or older
> > > today close to 40 percent are 10 years or older
> > >
> > > 1980s 20 percent of 5 to 7 year old vehicles scrapped
> > > today only 10 percent of 12 to 13 year old vehicles are scrapped
> > >
> > > dealers service the majority of vehicles to age 5
> > >
> > > ten years ago a thousand dollar bill for a ten year old car sent
> > > it to
> > > the scrapper because it had reached its lifespan anyway.
> > > today that car is probably fixed and expected to last another 5
> > years
> > >
> >
> >
>
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