

| Subject: | LT Mirrors (Was: Wheel Help please) |
| From: | 80 Westy Pokey |
| Date: | Wed, 6 Nov 2002 16:25:10 -0500 |
If you are thinking about new mirrors check out the VW LT ones David has on his Double Cab: http://www.fastforward.ca/vehicles/200209.jpg I picked up a pair myself off of eBay.de I can't wait to put them on! Thanks, Chris ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:13:33 -0700 >From: Adrian Bertarelli <adrian.bertarelli@ATTBI.COM> >Subject: Re: Wheel Help please >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >This list is an incredible place for knowledge. I have been into vw >vans for years and it is awesome to have a place to turn when you get >stuck. My recent inquiry about wheels has had some good and not so good >feedback. I would like to explain my situation a little so that people >don't think I am going into this blind. I share the same passion for >busses that all on this list do. I actually believed at one point that >I could use my vw's as daily drivers and I had 2 parts vans and 3 >driving vans(various years) in my collection(neighbors hated me). My >girlfriend and I both used vans as our main mode of transportation. I >quickly found myself working on the driving vans almost everyday after >work and on the weekends. We are volks people and we accept this as our >love and passion, but it quickly turned into a mess and I just couldn't >take it any more. My syncro tranny finally went and this was the straw >that broke the camels back. I gave away most of the heard (keeping my >syncro westy) and bought a brand new ford truck with a warranty(no more >wrenching). I just couldn't justify the expense and the time I was >putting in to keeping the vans running. I kept my syncro because it was >my dream car. Call me crazy but I have always loved busses and I used >to find it relaxing to work on them. SO with this in mind I packed up >the syncro and all the parts I have collected and garaged it till I had >the time to properly deal with it and get it inn the shape I want it to >be in. The van sat for 4 years. After contemplating parting it out or >selling it I decided to start the project. Since it is not a daily >driven car I have the opportunity to get the car in the condition I had >always dreamt it to be in. Over the years I had collected many parts >including OME shocks a fast forward lift kit, and many others. I >tackled the first phase which was to rebuild the transaxle and drive >shaft and get her on the road. I must say it is awesome to drive it >again I missed being a vw bus driver. Now I want to get on with the >second phase install the lift kit new shocks and wheels and tires. I >decided to go with either 15 or 16 inch wheels over the stock, you just >get a better selection of tires and it is a better look. I decided on >the 16 inch tires because their was a 16 inch version of the van made. >I like the 15 inch SA alloys they are sharp but I have decided to go >with the 16 inch wheels. I realize that I may have technical issues to >overcome but again this is not a daily driver. Since I already have a >bunch of the suspension parts to do this job I have been waiting for the >tires I have on the van to wear down so I can take the plunge and do >this job the way I want to. After this is done then I can move on two >some cosmetic changes like big bumpers, different mirrors, and then >eventually to an engine conversion. This is probably a familiar scene >with my van dreams of what it could be and not what it is, but I have >the opportunity to take my time, do it slowly, and get it the way I >wanted it to be in the first place. It will be an ongoing project for >years and eventually I might get sick of dumping money into it, but for >now I will tackle the project one step at a time, and now is the time >for wheels. Sorry for the banter just wanted to get the point across >that I am not flying into this blind. >Adrian > >-----Original Message----- >From: BenTbtstr8@aol.com [mailto:BenTbtstr8@aol.com] >Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 11:39 AM >To: adrian.bertarelli@ATTBI.COM; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: Wheel Help please > >Adrian, > >Take care that you have enough clearance for 16" wheels. You are looking >to >add 2 inches of wheel diameter. That is a big jump for most people and >most >Syncros. > >You will have to go to a tire with a lowered aspect ratio if you want to > >clear a stock unaltered Syncro suspension. That means less rubber >between >your Syncro and the road (or trail). Likelihood of rim damage is >greater. If >you manage to install taller tires to overcome this, you will need more >horsepower to turn them or change your gearing to compensate for change >in >ratios caused by the taller tire and wheel combo. > >Don't forget that you may also need to cut some of your fenders out if >you go >to really tall rubber. I have a stock 16" Syncro with the exact wheels >that >you are considering. The wheel wells are cut and provided with urethane >flares by the factory so that the bigger wheels can be accommodated. The >one >part most people neglect to consider is front fender. When you turn the >wheels, the outer edges on the big wheels will make contact on the rear >edge >of the fenderwell. > >Width is critical in taller wheel applications too. Just because the >wheel >and tire combo can fit inside your wheel wells while the wheels are >pointing >straight ahead doesn't mean you are in business. The wider the wheels, >the >more likely you will run into the front fender problem discussed in the >previous paragraph. Then there's the sliding door clearance problem. Too >too >many to discuss in one email. > >Therein lies the rub (pardon the pun). The VW factory 16" steel wheels >are >too narrow for most folks. They are only 5.5 inches wide. Too tall to >fit in >stock fenderwells with anything taller than a 50 series tire. Plus you >will >probably have to grind away some of the material at the seam of your >rear >trailing arm. Too much for too little in my opinion. > >The Mercedes steel wheels usually have a different offset. I have some >of >these on one of my Vanagons now. Too big an ET number will narrow your >track >to the point that the van will feel tippy compared to before. Many are >not >rated for the weight of a fully laden Westy. > >Anyway, I am rambling now. I believe 16 inch wheels are a more for show >than >go in a regular Syncro. You are better off going with 15" wheels with >taller >tires. Tires cost less and are more available. Rims cost less and are >more >available. Heck you can go nuts over them and install 235 tires like >some >folks. You will need fender cutting for tires taller than 215/70/15. > >If you are local to the SF area, pmail me. I will be happy to show you >in >person what >some of these wheels can do to your Syncro. Bring a strong back and a >good >lugwrench. I lost track of how may different types of wheels I won which >can >fit Vanagons. I also have steel adapters for installing Porsche rims as >well >as alloy rims redrilled to fit. 14"-17" tall and 5.5 "-9" wide. > >BenT Rhims ><A >HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/bentbtstr8/myhomepage/index.htm l">Vanagon >Cafe</A>
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