

| Subject: | Re: Drilled Rotors vs. Big Brake Kit |
| From: | 80 Westy Pokey |
| Date: | Thu, 7 Nov 2002 09:21:20 -0500 |
I thought SA vans used 215/65-15 Tires... these would be within 1% of the rolling diameter of 185/82-14 tires that are stock wouldn't they? Thanks, Chris ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:52:16 -0800 >From: pensioner <al_knoll@PACBELL.NET> >Subject: Re: Drilled Rotors vs. Big Brake Kit >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >The engineering reason for the SA large brakes with the 15" wheels and >larger tires has to do with the "effective" braking force. Larger diameter >tires require a proportionately larger retarding torque on the wheel to >generate the same stopping force. Putting 215x75-15 tires on a standard >syncro westy produces a loss of stopping power as the braking force has to >work through a larger "moment arm" (distance from axle center to road). A >few definitions help here: Braking force for this instance is the torque >applied to the axle by the brakes multiplied by the distance from the hub to >the center of the pad. Stopping force is the force generated at the road to >tire interface that actually declerates the van. > >For a given braking system increasing the tire diameter will decrease the >stopping force. > >To compensate, VWSA added more braking force via a larger disk and caliper >assembly. > >Drilling rotors actually has very little effect in terms of increasing >braking force. It does allow slightly better cooling over the solid rotors >and slightly bettter wet performance. The SA vented rotors are far superior >in terms of heat dissipation characteristics than the smaller solid rotors, >drilled or not. Drilling can postpone brake fade but not really increase >the braking force by any significant amount. > >The pad to disk interface describes a cylindrical swept area on the disk >itself. This interface generates heat and the function of the pad is to >continue to provide contact friction as the temperature of the interface >rises. At some elevated temperature the pad material will break down and >exhibit a "glazing" or "carbonizing" characteristic that has a poorer >pressure to friction coefficient. For the same pad pressure the failed >material produces significantly less friction and therefore less heat. The >heat being dissipated by the thermal mass of the disk and its configuration >is how the energy of motion of the van goes from kinetic to heat slowing the >van. > >Are you listening, Dr. Feynmann? How'd we do? > >"fizzix, it's always just fizzix" > >pensioner (start slow then taper off)
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