Without even reading the rest of the replies here - which I imagine they
would say the same things as I am saying... I'd give you the finger too for
driving with the driving lights on during low beam - these driving lights
are HIGH BEAM only!

In Canada, it is law to only have a total of TWO lights on during low
beam... you are bighting these poor people - set up your lights correctly!

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
4356 Quesnel Hixon Road
Quesnel BC Canada  V2J 6Z3

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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of JordanVw@AOL.COM
Sent: November 24, 2002 11:54 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: WARNING: SOUTH AFRICAN QUAD LIGHT GRILLES INCITE ROAD RAGE...

Ever since i've had the South African Quad driving light grill on my van,
during nighttime driving (with driving lights on and low beams on) i've had
people flash their high beams at me, and i get the occasional flip of the
middle finger in the rear view mirror of the car in front of me if im
driving
behind someone..   but tonight takes the cake...

i was on a local rd (PA rt 309) and was behind some guy in a pickup truck..
had the headlights on low beam as usual, and the driving lights on.  guy
started going real slow, then slams on his brakes in the middle of the
road -
long haired crazy man gets out, starts threatening me that he's gonna "kick
my F*ckin headlights out"..i explain that i DO NOT have my high beams on,
that those are driving lights, like alot of other people have, exept that
unlike most cars theyre not under the bumper..  so i switched my high beams
on to show him..bad idea...it didnt make things any better.. i did a Uie in
the middle of the road as this loose cannon started coming towards me..
anyway..
its totally PSYCHOLOGICAL...  people see 2 sets of lights side by side (four
nearly same-size illuminated lights in a horizontal pattern) and they
automatically think you have your high beams on..  if these same size, same
wattage SA driving lights were below the bumper, then nobody would mind at
all.   but people are so used to the older american cars w/ quad sealed
beams
that if you see a oncoming car w/ 4 headlights on at the same time on a
horizontal pattern, then they must be running their high beams..

sheesh...paid all this $ for the damn grille and its a life threatening
situation everytime i use the driving lights..   yet i can drive my audi all
the time w/ the 100w driving lights below the bumper in addition to the
stock
headlights on above the bumper, and nobody has a problem..

chris