Chris,
I a sorry, but you are wrong... the inner lights are HIGH BEAMS - take a
look at a VW Cabriolet or a 16V Golf the inner lights ONLY come on during
highbeams.

David Marshall

Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
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Quesnel BC Canada  V2J 6Z3

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In a message dated 11/25/02 8:47:24 AM Eastern Standard Time,
mdlind@RICA.NET
writes:

> . I
> thought the inner lights were high beams.
>
>

no - theyre driving lights.  the high beams are the stock outer 7" round
high
beam. the inner lights are just driving lights.  seems most listers have
them
wired so they come on w/ their high beams - , but how often do you use your
high beams?  do whats really the point of this grille then? to look cool?
(like i've never bought anything to look cool :<)   Anyway, driving lights
should be able to be used all the time.  the Jetts/golf GLX/GTI's have
"under
the bumper" driving lights that you can run all the time...and nobody has a
problem w/ them.. its the location of the inner SA driving lights next to
the
stock headlights in the grille that makes people think theyre high beams.
the difference between a fog" light and a "driving" light is the lens.
foglights have a fluted lens to displace light to the sides of the road and
directly in front of you, driving lights have a clear lens and project light
in a beam down the road in front of you like headlights.  the jettas/golfs
have DRIVING lights.   people have a problem with it because of the
psychological aspect of it because of their location directly horizontal in
line w/ the headlights.  when i flip the high beams on with the SA driving
lights on there is SIGNIFICANTLY more light than running the SA driving
lights on w/ the low beams on. so its not the light output that pisses
people
off, its the location of the light source..  like i said before, if these
SAME SA driving lights were located below the bumper, then nobody would have
a problem at all running them with the low beams on.
Purely psychological. people are trained that 2 light on at the same time
horizontally inline w/ eachother are high beams...wheather the wattage of
the
inner lights is 10 or 100.  they aren't getting pissed because of the
wattage
output, they are getting pissed because the location. 4 lights in a row
means
high beams to most people.

chris Freud, Phd Psch.  :<)