Hello and a belated thanks to all who responded to my initial email.

I asked because it seems that there was a bit of hoopla regarding Overland
that appears to have died down again.  I had been in contact with Overland
initially, but they apprently forgot about me or lost interest (I suggested
i may be interested in the use of my Carat as a beta for the swap of a
diesel into a van with a slushbox).  Since then there also seems to be less
and less info on their webpages.

Sounds like the few repsondants who actually have a van with one of these
engines seem to be pretty happ with the product.  Guess I'll have to contact
a "local" (within 300 miles) garage that Overland lists as a dealer.

Thanks again,

Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Myron Lind" <mdlind@rica.net>
To: "Barry E. Muller" <bmuller@uoft02.utoledo.edu>;
<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 7:57 PM
Subject: RE: Overland Engines

> Hi Barry, others
>
> I am installing the overland TDD (mechanical TDI) into my van right now. I
> got it through Karl Mullendore, and I am sure he could supply you with a
> motor or kit as well. I also got a ride in the 5 cylinder/5 speed gas kit
> that Karl installed in someone else's van. Pretty impressive display of
> power, but I am after the simplicity of the diesel and the economy as
well.
>
> Overland seems from my experience through Karl to be a bit difficult to
work
> with. They just send out the stuff. If it's not what you wanted or
expected,
> deal with it. Karl had a hard time even getting questions answered. I
simply
> state this because it could affect some peoples choice to do this
themselves
> or not. Case in point, new alternator supplied with the motor, no bracket,
> serpentine pulley on the alternator (with the one-way clutch so it won't
> "squeak" as you stop the engine), but a V-belt pulley on the crank. That
is
> an expensive serpentine pulley since it has rubber damping built in
between
> the belt area and the mounting area. It's also an expensive mounting
bracket
> for the alternator since it includes the belt tensioner. Around $200 EACH!
>
> I would also say that this would be a very difficult install (for me, at
> least) without a metal lathe, milling machine, some sort of welder, and
> brazing torch. I also have a pretty huge stock of metric bolts, grade 12.9
> and stainless, and this simplifies the process as well.
>
> Anyway, the install: Slow process for me. I got the older style block, so
> most of the previous diesel stuff bolts right on. Had to make a new left
> motor mount, redoing the carrier bars because I found a 5 speed
> transmission, and that scoots the motor back an inch or so. Redoing the
> carrier bars also allows me to easily lower the motor about 3/4 inch to so
> the injection pump aneroid will clear the engine hatch cover. Also had to
> make adapter for the water pump pulley, the coolant hose out the side of
the
> head, and new throttle/grommet bracket. Will need adapter for the oil
filler
> because it hits the water pump pulley (that's because I went with the
> serpentine belt, which moved everything to the rear). Had to remove some
> sort of crank sensor and make a plug, changed around the turbo drain, cap
> off an outlet in the exhaust manifold, make (still doing this) exhaust
> system. I just hauled it out to the van yesterday, got it centered and
level
> today, now off to finish fabricating the motor carrier bars. Then I can
see
> where the exhaust can and can't go.
>
> I'd be happy to share more details with anyone interested, or post
pictures
> to some web site somewhere if there is interest. I don't know how to do
the
> web pictures myself.
>
>
> Myron Lind
> Harrisonburg, VA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of Barry E. Muller
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:40 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Overland Engines
>
>
> Has anyone on this list actually had an engine from Overland put in their
> van?
>
>