This looks like the Cabrio setup that uses the K-wire and not the CAN-bus
system.

David Marshall

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-----Original Message-----
From: sheronda [mailto:sheronda1@tesco.net]
Sent: December 9, 2002 9:02 AM
To: TDI-conversion@yahoogroups.com; David Marshall; vanagon
Subject: Re: [TDI-conversion] Ignition transponder modules

Maybe Bernd Jaeger has a set up.
On www.syncro-bernd-jaeger.de/TDI-Umbau/tdi-umbau.html
He says he can "unlock" the engine and sell you a key and transponder set
for 200 $. For any TDI from 96 to 2001.
I think he is on holiday at the moment, but you can try.

Let me know how it goes since I want to do the same thing.
Here is a foto od his thing:
I hope it is not the K1 set up.
Lukas
On 9/12/02 12:39 am, "David Marshall" <vanagon@volkswagen.org> wrote:

On 9/12/02 12:39 am, "David Marshall" <vanagon@volkswagen.org> wrote:

> I am digging a little further into how to get my 2001 New Beetle ALH TDI
> running with a few 'external bits' attached to it as possible.
>
> The problem that I have is the ALH has an immobiliser built into it and
the
> ECU and the key must match or else the vehicle won't start.
>
> What I need to make it all work is the key, the key coil, instrument
cluster
> (with the internal key reader) and of course the ECU.  If I can eliminate
> the key, key reader and instrument cluster I would be laughing... but so
far
> how to turn off the IMMO 'accessory' in the ECU has not surfaced -
although
> it is rumoured possible.
>
> The obvious thing to try to eliminate is the instrument cluster as there
> isn't much room or want to put this at the back of my van and it would get
> damaged the first time I took the vehicle for a swim.  It has been brought
> to my attention that the 2000+ Cabrio and Eurovan have the key coil reader
> external of the instrument cluster.  This is good news for me as it is a
way
> to eliminate the bulky instrument panel.  The other good news is the
Cabrio
> lock cylinder and the Vanagon lock cylinder are interchangeable meaning
that
> there isn't a real need to get rid of the transponder key, just use it to
> start the Vanagon using the IMMO setup from a Cabrio.  Great idea I am
> thinking!!!
>
> The problem now is after going to the VW dealer and reading countless
wiring
> code books. The Cabrio key reader uses the K-line setup where my ALH
engine
> is a CAN-bus system (K-line uses 1 wire to talk to the ECU, CAN-bus uses
2).
> So... it looks like the Cabrio setup won't work with my later style ALH
> motor.
>
> The questions that I have are:
>
> - Is it possible to remove the key reader from the New Beetle instrument
> cluster?
> - Does the Eurovan use the CAN-bus system?  If so, is it still an external
> key reader?
> - Any other suggestions on how to make this installation simpler?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
>
>
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