On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Leon Korkin wrote:

> Many drivers know how long yellow light stays on and manage to cross
> before red light turns on. To make sure cameras do their job yellow
> light duration is reduced significantly so that people assuming they will cross intersection
> while yellow is on all of a sudden get red in the middle of intersection.

In my experience that's unnecessary.  I've seen people in turn lanes start
into the intersection *from almost a dead stop* after the light turned
back to red.

New York is also notorious for red light running.  People there have
apparently decided that a red light means three more cars can go through.

People get casual about it, because they know enforcement is lax.  They
risk their lives and the lives of other people to save two minutes of
travel time.  Then they complain when they get ticketed for it.

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