Never used a non full equipped camper for camping but find the sink most
useful, then the cooking equipment/stove and finally the frig.

Mike
On 12/23/02 5:59 AM, "Chuck Hill" <hilltech@NETINS.NET> wrote:

> Miguel wrote:
>
> I would like to know if those who have stove and sink in their Vanagons
> really use them and feel the need of having one.
> -----------------------
> This should raise some serious debate.  I've had both versions of the
> Westy camper, with frig, stove, etc., and without.  There are times when
> one or the other is preferable.  In the end, my wife & I like the
> "without utilities" version better overall.  Our very first Westy was a
> GL with the whole set of stuff, and we loved it, and had it for about 6
> or 7 years.  That was actually when the kids were small, and the seating
> room was needed.  Now our "best" Westy is a non-GL, without the
> "utilities", and it's what we like.  I'm in the process of restoring an
> '82 Westy, and it will have the full width rear folding seat, no
> cabinets, the side table from a Carat, and a couple of removable jump
> seats.  It weighs just 3100 lbs this way, and accellerates surprisingly
> well, having shed quite a lot of weight.
>
> Another topic:  How fast do those of you in Europe, especially in
> Germany, drive on the Autobahn or similar roads?  We visited again in
> March of this year, and I was impressed with the speeds on the road.  I
> wondered at what speed a T3 Vanagon would safely cruise.
>
> Chuck Hill
>