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Subject:Re: Red Line vs. Swepco
From:Mark Dorm
Date:Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:26:47 -0800

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<P>Have you put this Swepco stuff in yet? All I want to know right now, is can you personally feel/tell a difference.... When I first added Redline oil to my automatic tranny (Redline D4) I noticed an improvement, of course, I was noticing the difference between old non synthetic and new synthetic... but when my tranny was serviced prior to that adding in run of the mill dexron I didn't notice a difference.... . does non synthetic break down to a chalkiness... Is your vanagon automatic? .... I'm really interested in this post/thread... would like the feedback... <BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Antaki <WRACK@ATTBI.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: Antaki <WRACK@ATTBI.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Red Line vs. Swepco
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:10:06 -0800
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I will try to remember to ask when I visit them again next week.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;You must be talking about this:?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;http://www.swepcousa.com/lubesite/gear.htm
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Check out the 601:
<DIV></DIV>&gt;http://www.swepcousa.com/lubesite/spec.htm
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Ron
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;-----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: Zoran Mladen [mailto:zmaninco@yahoo.com]
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 10:32 PM
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: Antaki; vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: Red Line vs. Swepco
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;So Im checking out the website. Which one is
<DIV></DIV>&gt;recommended? The 212?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;--- Antaki <WRACK@ATTBI.COM>wrote:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Hi all, not that I like open this old can of worms,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; but -
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I used to love Red Line trans oil, run it in my
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Scirocco 16V, my Vanagon
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; trans, and it seemed like the best available-
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; **Until Last Night**!!!
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Background:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; While at S Car Go, (www.scargoracing.com) a shop in
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Marin county that
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; prepares Porsches for racing, builds custom engines,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; headers, you name
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; it! They have one that puts out 500HP at the rear
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; wheels!. Indeed they
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; are widely known in Porsche racing circles, and do
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; most excellent work.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; The Point of this message:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I noticed that the only kind of oil in their shop is
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Swepco. One of them
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; had a transaxle apart on the bench, and I asked him
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; his opinion of Red
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Line vs Swepco. He told me that Red Line breaks down
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; into a chalky
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; deposit on the parts, and leaves a thin liquid
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; behind. He then showed
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; me, on the parts he was working on, exactly what he
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; just told me. He
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; scraped the goo deposit off of a gear, and I could
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; see that the stuff
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; coating the parts was red, and there was a layer of
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; what looked like
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; watery oil on some parts. He also told me that he
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; can take one look and
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; tell what was run in a gearbox, and sees a lot of
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Red Line-lubricated
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; trannys come in broken.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; They run ONLY Swepco oils and lubricants in these
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; awesome, beautiful,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; hand built, ex-freaking-spensive machines.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I'm sold. It's Swepco from now on for my trans oil
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; from now on, and if I
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; upgrade from Mobil 1 Synth in my engines, it will be
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; to Swepco. I'll
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; even look for their greases for the important
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; stuff...
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; &gt;rant off
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Thanks for listning,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Ron Antaki
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; '88 Wolfsburg (das all-purpose machine)
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; '86 Syncro Westy (escape machine)
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; '88 Scirocco 16V 2.0L (yee, I say, yee haaa!!)
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; From: Vanagon Mailing List
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Of John Rodgers
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 9:01 PM
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: Manual Tranny Oil Change
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; It's time to change the tranny oil on my 88 GL and
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I'm sticking with
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Redline MT90. I have been looking at the Tranny
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; section in Bentley, but
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I'm dawgged if I can find a tranny drain plug in any
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; of the pictures or
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; drawings anywhere. Filler, yes! Drain, No!
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Can someone tell me where it is, and maybe point me
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; to a picture?
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Thanks,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; John Rodgers
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 88 GL Driver
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
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