In a message dated 2/17/03 9:52:02 AM, j_rodgers@charter.net writes:

<< UNTIL I bought my first Vanagon. With that beast, the
studded tires were the only way to go. >>

John,

Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.  When I bought my first Vanagon, I was
looking forward to the winter driving prowess for which the air-cools were
legendary.  I had heard many tales from my brother-in-law of how his '68 loaf
would get his guys into hunting areas, then wait for the Jeeps to catch up.
Boy, was I disappointed!  I eventually went to Hakkapeliitta's but, I never
cared for studded tires.  I run too much on the dry to really justify them.

George