On Sat, 22 Feb 2003, Art McGinn wrote:

>    my '82 van, stick shift, gets a miserable 10-11 mpg in the city (s.f.)
> and 19-21 on the freeway. apparent reason for the lousy city mileage is that
> it spends most of its time in slow-moving stop-and-go traffic, rarely
> getting into even 4th gear. art

Automatics get lousy city milage because they slip a lot at low speeds.  I
used to have a 1990 Ford Econoline that got similar numbers in town.
Freeway milage was more like 16 mpg, though.

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