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Subject:Re: Golf/ jetta auto trans can be used with vanagon diffs
From:EMZ
Date:Mon, 10 Mar 2003 00:11:46 -0500

Jon,
    Once again, this info. is very useful, thanks for your time and
effort.  I currently have six used automatic transmission from
the A2 body.  Anyone need one?

            Eric                   86-VW4x4
            vw4x4@fyi.net          86-SS Syncro
            Pittsburgh, PA USA     1936-Chrysler
                                   92-Jetta GWC
            www.fyi.net/~vw4x4/vw4x4.htm

On Sat, 8 Mar 2003, Jon wrote:

> The automatic portion of any '85-'92 golf / jetta will mate the differential
> of any vanagon air or water automatic transmission. The casting part# on
> both automatic trans portions are identical.  When you buy a clutch kit for
> either automatic, you get the same kit.  Differences:  You must swap out and
> re-use the reverse planetary gear portion from the vanagon(very easy with
> both out front of you on the floor).  The vanagon 8mmx1.25 studs that mate
> the auto portion to the diff.  are shorter and need to be changed **Bentley
> gives a real nice description.  Only a few '90-'92 golf /Jetta tranny's came
> with oil coolers, So you can try and find one, however, much more
> expensive... I always use the regular ones without and leave the cooler
> lines attached to the cooler and secure it in, because you'll have no bolt
> holes on the Golf /Jetta trany's to thread them into.  I've been told by
> many you can't do this.  They may be right, however, they also told me
> they'd never actually  tried it.  We've done 8 here that have over 50,000
> miles on since the change and one with over 132,000 and counting.  The valve
> body is different internally (spring tension) but can be swapped either way.
> I think the optimum is to use the golf/jetta valve body; they seem to shift
> so much smoother and at a more useful RPM range.  Either way the shift
> linkage must be changed (real easy) and you have to drop valve body to get
> to it.  We decided to try it on our own first, years ago after pricing used
> vanagon auto's.  The golf / Jettas are cheap with low mileage at bone yards
> ($175.00- $375.00)  I do suggest changing all necessary gaskets ,seals and O
> rings when assembling even if fluid is pink...that's usually the only reason
> these trannys fail mostly---the deteroration of these items I just mentioned
> above  allows  ATF fluid(dexronIII) to "swap spit" with the diff. fluid(gear
> oil)contaminating the clutches and then the mess begins from there.  The
> first swap took 1 1/2hrs  after a few now  25mins with a bentley manual
> right handy.----  Hopefully I won't get as much heat from this posting----If
> you need more info or part #'s let me know ---Jon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "VWNut Hawk" <vwnut@HAWKCOMPUTING.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 8:12 AM
> Subject: Can Jetta auto transmissions be used on some Vanagons?
>
>
> > Someone mentioned to me that the newer (90's) or so Vanagon can
> > use part of the Jetta automatic transmissioins?
>