

| Subject: | Re: Front Heater Fan Removal & Replacing HOW TO! - LONG |
| From: | Stan Wilder |
| Date: | Fri, 30 May 2003 12:25:38 -0700 |
Fan motor .................. With Resistor $15.00 http://www.williamwareagency.com/forsale/firesale0.htm If you don't like the price ............. demand a better price! You might be surprised. More stuff coming tonight and tomorrow, book mark the page. Stan Wilder On Mon, 12 May 2003 19:55:38 -0700 Joel Cort <joel_cort@YAHOO.COM> writes: > Hi Shannon and other Listees > > I read you problem and have done this job before. It sure sounds > like you need a new fan motor. You can pick one up at the Bus Depot, > Vanagain or VolksCafe for about $100 + shipping. That is the easy > part, now you have to install the new mortor..... read on. > > David Beierl -- dbeierl@attglobal.net has been a great resource and > wealth > of information on how to do this for me. He even shipped out FedEx > those > darn 11 clips to me. > > This is a fairly easy job as far as Vanagons are concerned but be > ready to spend the weekend. > > Before you get started with this project you may also want to order > those darn 11 clamps at your VW dealer. They are VW Part number 321 > 819 059 and you will need them to reseal the heater unit. Having > the Bentley guide will also be helpful. > > Below are some basic instructions for doing the job: > > Disconnect the battery: You will be working without the dash and > with exposed hot terminals so it is best to disconnect the ground > connection. To do this move the passenger seat forward, remove the > plate under the rear of the seat protecting the battery and loosed > the ground connection. Pull the ground wire off the terminal and > fasten it so that it does not flip back and touch the battery > terminal again. > Instrument cluster removal: Pull the instrument panel off and > remove all the wiring. There are 4 Phillips #2 screws holding the > plastic tab of the instrument cluster. Be careful, these tabs can > get brittle with age. They will break and shatter. Wiggle you hand > behind the speedometer and unclip the spedo cable. Just squeeze the > connector and it will come out. Next pull out the switches by > pressing the tabs to release them from the cluster. The cluster > should lift out and remove the big wire connector plug. This will > provide you room to get under the dash board. Put the cluster in a > safe place that you will not sit or lay other components on. > Vent lever removal: Release all the vent levers. If you pull on > the blue and red rubber knobs they will work off the lever. You will > be able to see the mounting nut after the instrument panel is > removed. You may have to remove the front and rear heater fan > switches as well. Also remove any auxiliary wiring on the dash that > you may have added on. > Radio: Remove the radio you are on your own here > Remove the Glove box: press the retaining tabs and lower the > box to the floor board. Slide it off its pivot. Be careful not to > press the retaining tabs to much or too hard, they could be brittle > and break. > Syncro dash plate: (Applies to SYNCRO Model) Remove the Syncro > dash plate and Differential lock switch(es). > Steering column: Remove the two bolts holding the steering > column to the dash frame. These are safety bolts without a head > because it is meant to snap off when the bolts are torque at the > factory. I used a pair of vise grips and was able to turn these > bolts loose. I replaced them with normal bolts. I think they are a > thread of 8x1.25 mm and 25 cm long. The steering column will drop > to the driver s seat and that is ok and out of the way. > Dashboard attachment: Unbolt the dashboard > a. 6 or 8 #3 Philips head below the windshield > b. 4 big bolts along the door jams. You will need to be able to > open the doors wide enough to get your screwdriver/bolt driver in > there > > 9) Dash removal: Ok the Dash should be loose and ready to pull > off. > a. Lift it up slowly and check what else is still wired and > connected, like the cig lighter or AC switches, You will have to > unplug all. > b. I did it by myself but with an extra person it sure is easier to > lift and pull the dash out one side or the other. > > 10) Review the heater unit: With the dash out you can now see the > heater unit shell. > > a. Fastening clips: Check to see if there are black metallic > clips (11 of them) snapping the upper half of this heater together. > This > is an indication that your heater has been pull out and separated > once > before for service. If there are no clips then this is the first > time this heater > unit is being serviced. There is a smooth factory mold gluing the > upper > and lower half of the heater unit sealed from the factory. You will > have to > run a blade or knife along this edge to separate the two halves. > Make sure > that you order the 11 clips available only at the VW dealers. It > will be tough > on a Sunday afternoon to find these at NAPA. They cost about $2 or > so. > VW part number 321 819 059 > > b. Heater unit support: Ok the heater unit is held in place by 4 > long Philips > screws, 2 inside the cabin and 2 from outside by the headlights. > You will have to remove the front upper grill to get to these. > Once > you remove the grill you will see against the firewall just the > Phillips > head holding a felt or soft washer. These should be the upper > supporting > screws for the heater unit. They may be rusted to where you cannot > get > your screwdriver into it. Just work it and don t strip it or rush > this part. On > the inside the screws should be easier. You may need a long > Phillips #3 > screwdriver. > David Beierl adds: The big M6 screws holding the heater box > in are Phillips #3 and not #2, and if you use a #2 driver > you're gonna most likely mess them up. Not too terrible > on the exposed ones, but a big problem with the buried > ones on the heater box. What I've actually done is use > the longest #3 I could get, and clamp one of the special > Vise-grips made for hex nuts on the plastic handle to > turn it with, then lean into the end with as much body > weight as I can manage to keep the driver from coming out. > With that combination I could get enough force in there to > either remove the screw or twist the head off -- not as good > obviously but far better than buggering the head of the screw. > > c. Coolant hose removal: You will also need to remove the coolant > hoses > coming up from the housing. Be neat and try to capture any coolant > drips before > they get to the rug. I used lots of newspaper rags and paper > towels. Not too much > came out when I did this, but the heater core is full of coolant so > when you take the > actual heater unit out be aware that some coolant may drip. I put a > couple of corks > in the pipes to keep them as sealed as I could. > > 11) Removal out of the van: Ok the disassembly is complete you are > ready to take the heater unit out of the van for the service. Again > plug the coolant pipes and hoses to not loose too much coolant on > the front rug in the van. > > > > 12) Servicing the Heater Unit: > a. Separate the two halves: with the heater unit in your work > area (or garage floor) you can now separate the shells and get to > the fan motor. See the seam between the two shells and try to run a > knife or a blade along that seam. Be patient and work it slowly to > not damage anything internal and yourself. Refer to the Bentley > instructions if need be. Again make sure that you have the VW > engineered clips to buckle these two halves once you are ready to re > install. > > b. Replacing the Heater Fan: With the two halves split you can now > service the fan motor. I recall that it easily comes out. You will > probably have to remove the squirrel cages from you old motor and > insert them on the new motor. It may take a very small Allen wrench > for that don t know? Forgot? Mark the orientation of all the parts > to fit back in place properly and in the right direction. Refit the > new fan motor and test it out with a 12-volt source. Make sure it > works and spins in the correct direction. > > c. Wiring the Heater Fan: The wires are connected/soldered to the > big green resistor. This is what provides the 3 fan speeds. You will > also note the three or four wires coming from the switch to the big > resistor. Do you soldering tricks and remember where the yellow, > brown, black wires go. If the big green resistor is cracked or > blackened it may need to be replaced as well. Test it out on all > three speeds. > > d. Heater core servicing: You may choose to service other > components of the heater unit such as the heater radiator core of > the vent flaps. You can check the heater core for any leakage, > which you could have smelled as sweet maple syrup prior to taking > this job on. There should be signs of corrosion if the core is > leaking. You can remove the heater core and flush it out or look for > any signs of leaks. In which case it would be very very wise to > change the heater core as well since you have it all out and can do > it right. List vendors sell this unit for around $100. > > e. Vent Flaps Servicing: While you are at it, check the foam seals > around all the flaps. These are usually burned out after 10 + years > in service, and may need to be replaced. I made all the replacement > seal from foam pieces that I had laying around from old packaging. > Go to a hardware store and check out the foam material in the > heating and air conditioning section. They usually will have some > material that will work. You cannot get this from VW so you have to > custom make this. The important flaps to check are the lower flaps. > This seal is what stops the outside from coming into the cab and > warming up the Van in the summer time. > > 13) Reinstallation: OK you are done. I'm done, I can t think of > anything else at the moment. Refit the heater flaps, the heater > core, the fan motor and cage, the resistor and reassemble the two > halves using the 11 clips. Refit the heater unit in the van, refit > the coolant hoses on the heater core. Check the vent cabling to > ensure that all works well inside the box. Refit and remount > everything in reverse order and you should be golden. > > 14) Fill the coolant and bleed the circuit as described on the > list or in Bentley. Flush the air out and you are set. > > Hope this helps, > > Joel Cort Joel.cort@usa.xerox.com or Joel_Cort@yahoo > 89 Syncro Westy > Rochester NY. > > LiMBO representative for the Western New York region. > > > Shannon Mitchell <vze4rq5j@VERIZON.NET> wrote: > My front heater fan is going on the fritz... loud screeching noise > and it is driving me crazy... Where is this fan? and how hard is it > to change? > > Thanks in advance > Shannon > 91 Vanagon > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
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