In a message dated 6/5/2003 6:03:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ writes:

> Marty wasn't entirely trustworthy (broke his word to me), and
> eventually he closed this business down, I'm told.

To the best of my knowledge MSDS is actively in business. They just stop
making  Vanagon kits.

BenT