Robert, thank you.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@hotmail.com>
To: <alpine@insightbb.com>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 7:21 PM
Subject: Re: Re: How Much does a Westfalia propane tank hold?

> All propane tanks must be filled only to 80% of total capacity. Westfalia
> tanks have a valve that is opened prior to filling. When gas vapor appears
,
> this signals the attendant to shut offf the pump, then close the 80%valve.
>
> The air space is needed as a buffer to prevent liquid propane from
entering
> an appliance and creating a hazardous  or explosive situation.
>
> The air space is needed for the propane liquid to change to propane gas
> vapor , which is the form it is used in stoves, refrigerators , lanterns
and
> heaters.
>
> Liquid propane can freeze skin instantly, so the need for 80% valves.
> Filling the tank full of liquid propane increases the risk of liquid
propane
> entering your camper thru your stove etc with possibly dangerous results.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Roberto Munoz" <alpine@insightbb.com>
> To: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@HOTMAIL.COM>,<vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Subject: Re:      Re: How Much does a Westfalia propane tank hold?
> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:07:28 -0400
>
> So, when I fill my tank for the first time. I still have some propane in
it,
> What should I do  to  be safe on the "Fill only 85% of whole tank " ??
> Why is it wrong to fill tank to full capacity ?
> Thank you,
> Roberto.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@HOTMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:14 PM
> Subject: Re: How Much does a Westfalia propane tank hold?
>
>
>  > Mark,
>  >
>  > Just your answer alone, not to forget the expected flood of
like-answers
>  > confirms my suspicions:
>  >
>  > There is a scam operation going on in Oregon and it's time to drop the
> dime
>  > on it.
>  >
>  > The key word here is "tweak", as in: "Yes, we sometimes have to tweak
the
>  > propane meter".
>  >
>  > These are the exact words of the cashier when I told her the meter was
> not
>  > accurate .
>  >
>  > My propane tank vented when it reached the 80% mark and the valve was
> then
>  > shut off. Yet the meter read a gallon more. This is the standard
Vanagon
>  > Westfalia propane tank by Manchester.
>  >
>  > The same Circle "K" gas station in Eugene supposedly overfilled me to
3.8
>  > gallons .
>  >
>  > Eight months ago the same station(the cashier said she remembered me)
was
>  > 4.2 gallons.
>  >
>  > This time I watched the meter read 3.8 gallons when the attendant  shut
> off
>  > the valve.
>  >
>  > Just like last year, when I alerted the cashier ,she apologized and
said
> I
>  > only had to pay for 2.8 gallons @1.69 a gallon.
>  >
>  > Of course, this time like the first time I stopped there for propane, I
>  > thought that I must have the wrong information about Westy propane tank
>  > capacity. For 8 years.
>  >
>  > Last year she told me that you can put more propane in when it's cold
> out.
>  > It was 45 degrees F.
>  >
>  > I stopped there this time to see if it was fixed.
>  > Now I am almost sure its "rigged".
>  >
>  > The main concern at first was of a dangerous overfilling. Now it
appears
>  > that the overfilling is in the cash register at this store.
>  >
>  > After I report this I'll tell you the location of this filling station
> and
>  > the outcome of the investigation , if there is one.
>  >
>  > Stay tuned..
>  >
>  > Robert
>  >
>  > 1982 Westfalia
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: mark drillock <drillock@earthlink.net>
>  > To: Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@HOTMAIL.COM>
>  > CC: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>  > Subject: Re: How Much does a Westfalia propane tank hold?
>  > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 14:41:30 -0700
>  >
>  > I usually get 2.5 gallons into an empty tank.
>  >
>  > Mark
>  >
>  > Robert Keezer wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  > Westy-owners, How much propane does the stock Vanagon Westfalia
> propane
>  > tank
>  >  > hold ? What is the 80% fill capacity?
>  >  >
>  >  > Robert
>  >  > 1982 Westfalia
>  >  >
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