

| Subject: | Re: NYTimes.com Article & Japanese 4WD vans |
| From: | Andrew Grebneff |
| Date: | Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:07:35 +1200 |
>Let's see now: > Izuzu Fargo, I'm guessing Australia saw it as the Holden Shuttle. If so >P.O.S RUST RUST RUST... and the tailgate's dual catches all break. > > Mazda Bongo (=Ford Econovan/Spectron), The 4wd version is a joke really. >Nice try though. The LWB versions sit barley 1" higher though! RUST again. And Mazda's diesels are notorioously unreliable. > > Mitsubishi Delica/L300/Express, No offence guys but this is the one that >really started the 4wd van craze. 1983/84 was the first one with real off >road ability. Crap on the road and tinny as hell though. We owned one back >in 1990-1994. I didn't think them tinny, but the poor tailgate catch design lets dust billow in on dirt roads. I have driven both the 80s & 90s types extensively. > > Nissan Vanette, Urvan/Homy/Caravan, the ones I've seen are dogs. >> Toyota Liteace/Townace/Masterace, Hiace, Estima (=Previa), the 1980's >Liteace and previa/tarago The 84-89 Townace version of the Liteace was sold in Oz with "Tarago" badges; when the Estima (Previa) came out it got the Tarago badge in Oz too. Go figure. Bad a name as "Vanagon". >was like the Mazda, playing catchup to Mitsu and >the L300. Limited offroad ability. Not sure about the Hiace but then it is >a big bugger really. The 4WD Hiaces are really designed for rough roads and tracks rather than crosscountry... but I bet they'd make a good go of offroading. Just need to watch getting hung-up on humps in the LWB versions, as with a Hummer. Hiaces are VERY solid vehicles. >Apart from the Izuzu and the Nissan we got all the 4wd vans at one point or >another. FYI, the L300 4wd was available between 1983/84 and 1999/2000, Actually they are still current... 2 versions... the 1989 model is still made, and also the front-engined "van" with the same name too. Hyundai also makes the former now, with H100 badges. >the >Toyotas 1986/1989, IO don't know what year 4WD Hiaces came out, but mine is an 86 and they are still in production. >the Mazda/Fords about 1986/1988 Haven't seen a really recent 4WD Mazda van, but the 2WD is still made, and I doubt the 4WD has ceased production. In fact they sell well enough that all the Japanese 4WDs wills till be made; in fact most Japanese vehicles (cars included) are made in 4WD for the Japanese market. -- Andrew Grebneff Dunedin, New Zealand 64 (3) 473-8863 <andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> Fossil preparator Seashell, Macintosh & VW/Toyota van nut
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