Phil, I did not intend to insult anybody by expressing my opinions about
Optimas, and if I did, I apologize to all. I try to contribute to this forum
by sharing my experience in the use of Optima batteries, which in my case
was a negative experience. Several others in this forum had very positive
experiences, and I am happy for them. The price was not the issue. I think
this discussion started around the issue of a Vanagon alternator not being
able to charge an Optima battery, and I thought it was a very strong
possibility that the problem was the battery, not the alternator. But, then
again I've been wrong before. Good luck to all. Armando

>From: "Phil S." <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: "Phil S." <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM>
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Vanagon alternator too weak for Optimas.
>Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 21:28:30 -0700
>
>Armando you seem to really dislike Optima, well i
>agree with you they ARE expensive, but we Optima users
>are not idiots, we buy them partially becouse they can
>fit under the westy's driver seat(battery mounted on
>its side) Its nice to save space and to still be able
>to rotate the westy's seat withyout banging into the
>batterys top-posts.....try THAT with your
>walmart $45 special....it wont work, the posts are
>just too tall. Its a nice clean out of the way
>install....see for yourself:
>http://vgonman.com/auxbat.htm
>
>Phil 84' Westy w/ Tiico
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>--- armando guzman <razeprotrk@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > Come on, Jeff, red top, green top, yellow top: what
> > is the difference? the
> > plastic case in a battery can be any color you want.
> > Inside is the same.
> > Optima is an experimental battery that uses gel
> > instead of water/acid mix to
> > produce voltage. The chemicals used in this battery
> > have not been perfected,
> > and they use us, the consumers, to tell them what is
> > wrong with their
> > product. Get a good Sears battery that will have a
> > great warranty and you
> > will be ok for 5  or 6 years. Armando
> >
> >
> > >From: Jeff Oxroad <Oxroad@AOL.COM>
> > >Reply-To: Oxroad@AOL.COM
> > >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > >Subject: Re: Vanagon alternator too weak for
> > Optimas.
> > >Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 02:09:01 EDT
> > >
> > >In a message dated 7/21/2003 3:07:26 PM EST,
> > napszeerf@YAHOO.COM writes:
> > >
> > ><< Optima  >>
> > >
> > >I saw red Optima 12V batteries at Costco for $99.
> > I'm not too Optima savvy,
> > >but I think this is a good price and passing it on
> > fof those looking. Is
> > >this a
> > >good price and is the red Optima better/worse/the
> > same as the Yellow?
> > >
> > >Jeff
> > >83.5 Westy
> > >LA,CA
> >
> >
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