In a message dated 7/24/03 11:56:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
dfahey@VISUALAUTOMATION.COM writes:

> >   Don't be fooled by its appearance, that vehicle is way too easy to
> >overload  The Honda Element can only safely carry 675 pounds of people
> >and stuff.
> >
>

ill never forget this one time at band camp  (NO, NOT what you're thinking -
no flutes involved)  my dad loaded 28 kids into his dodge B200 conversion van
- the midsize model - not the extended body one..  28 people..  drove for 2
miles like that down a dirt road at the camp taking a bunch of kids to the
dining hall..   went really slow...

chris