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Eric
'80 Westie 'Rusty'

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Zoran Mladen
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 9:43 PM
To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
Subject: Re: All Vanagon owners aren't JERKS...are they? Please read
this!!!

Brett,

Sorry for the bad dealing.  But thanx for posting this
message, as I was looking at this Vanagon also.  I
will stay away...

Thanx!

Z

--- Brett Baer <brettbaer@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> This email really has no purpose other than to vent
> some frustration and to
> warn other Vanagon enthusiasts from dealing with one
> of the biggest assholes
> I have EVER dealt with.  Here it goes.
>
> I am a 20 year old college student I need a Carat to
> use as parts, so I
> found one for sale on autotrader.com.  Pretty rough
> physical condition,
> front-end damage from collision with a deer, the
> interior is really dirty;
> but, mechanically good condition.  I contact the
> owner and he sends me more
> pictures of the van.  I decide to pay the $1500
> asking price and buy a
> one-way bus ticket from Austin, TX (where I live) to Lawrence, KS (45
> minutes from the owner's house), an overnight, 18
> hour, $65 ticket.  The
> owner had agreed to pick me up at the bus stop in
> Lawrence and then I would
> drive the van back to Texas.  All the details were
> worked out, this was not
> a capricious decision.  To make a long story short,
> when I arrived in
> Lawrence the guy had a bunch of excuses why he
> couldn't pick me up.  After a
> couple of hours at the bus stop on my cell phone
> working his lame excuses
> out, so that he had no more to offer, he says over
> the phone, "Forget it
> Brett...I'm not selling you the van", hangs up the
> phone and doesn't answer
> my calls.  I resist the urge to get a taxi to the
> guys house because the
> only thing I could do was fight him; I couldn't
> force him to sell me the
> van.  I figured he would probably just call the cops
> if I showed up
> demanding the title and keys.  So, I go into the gas
> station, I mean bus
> stop, that I had been sitting outside of all morning
> after my over-night
> trip and buy a return ticket to austin ($105) and
> spend another day/night on
> the bus back to austin.  I don't want this to happen
> to anyone else, or
> myself again.
>
> So no matter what you do, don't try to buy this
> guy's car:
>
> John "A-hole" Schubert of Midwest Flying Service
> 804 Pennsylvania Ave.
> Leavenworth, KS 66048
>
>
> He is selling a 1990 Vanagon Carat blue w/ grey moulding/interior,
> driver-side front-end damage from collision with
> deer,  around 120k miles.
>
> Avoid this guy at all costs.  I am still confused
> about what actually
> happened to me these past couple of days, I guess I
> am in shock.  I can't
> believe anyone would do this.  All I do know is that
> I am $200 poorer and 3
> miserable days older and depressed because I still
> need a parts van to
> finish the resto of my Syncro Westy.
>
> If anyone has any creative ideas of how I can seek
> some retribution from
> this guy please let me know, maybe BenT can lend me
> the shotgun he's been
> talking about (just kidding).
>
> My stomach hurts just thinking about it,
> Brett Baer
> Austin, TX
> '87 Syncro Westy
>
>
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