

| Subject: | Re: Definitive on the 87 not using a common ground for rear speakers |
| From: | robertmstewart |
| Date: | Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:49:27 -0400 |
> I just had my 89 Carat stereo system upgraded with new rear, front speakers > and new head, everything fit fine, with the existing wires. I had 2 wires on > each side a positive and negative, that was it, if there was a ground it was > hidden from view. I was able to fit a set of 6.5� speakers in the front, had > to cut a little bit out but it fits in area where the stock front door > speakers was and did not interfere with the power windows at all. The SONY > stereo is 50x4 and puts out plenty of power. My front speakers are infinity > reference, and my rear are 4� sound stream units, I added a self powered 200 > watt sub woofer by inifinity that is amazing and can be positioned either flat > or standing up. It fills the van with plenty of bass, the only thing that is a > little lacking is in the mid range, not sure what the fix is. I had a someone > install the stereo for me, it took him about 2.5 hours and cost me $175 > dollars in NYC. > > I had particularly asked him about the ground issue and he said there was no > rear ground connected to the previous speaker that he could see, he had to > open the connectors a bit to widen so they would fit on the modern speakers > and we needed a new stereo wiring harness and a radio antenna adapter but that > was really it, a very simple install. Just an fyi. > > regards to all, > robert > nyc > 89 Auto/Power/Carat > > > If you follow the red, blue, and 2 gray wires from the radio to the area > above the glovebox you may find the answer. There you should expect to > see a connector with those 4 wires going in but only 3 coming out and > just 1 of them gray. This is where the rear speaker grounds join. From > there the 3 wires go up inside the pillar at the corner of the > windshield and are very difficult to follow. If you see 4 wires with 2 > grays going up the pillar then you may be in luck. Not likely on an 87. > > Mark > > Tim Beidel wrote: >> > >> > Can anyone with experience in installing a new stereo to a 1987 Vanagon >> > provide a definitive answer about whether the rear speakers that year >> shared >> > a common ground? >> > >> > I have 4 wires coming from the rear; they are colored as described in >> > Bentley 97.176. That diagram suggests to me that they do *not* share a >> > common ground. >> > >> > I have seen one message in the archives that says they do not, and that >> > installation of a modern radio will go fine. There is another message that >> > says the ground is melded somewhere in the back and that you should not be >> > fooled by the presence of two wires. I've received a private email warning >> > the same thing. >> > >> > Others have said I should use a VOM to check for myself. If I had a VOM (a >> > voltage ohm meter?), what should I look for? How do I use one to test these >> > wires? (I am sure I can borrow one from somebody). >> > >> > Thanks, >> > >> > Tim Beidel >> > South Portland, ME >> > 1987 Syncro Westfalia
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