Tim,
      you take the words out of my mouth or better from my keyboard. That's
exactly what I meant in my earlyer message, and I will apoligize to
everibody I have offendet with the word "baboon". I guess the meaning is in
Canada differnt the I the USA.

      KARL

      Oh, for the love of god, please, please *please*  let's all let this
thread
      die! Or at least carry the discussion over to some electronics list!

      Thanks,
      Tim

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Tim Demarest" <tim.demarest@POBOX.COM>
  To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
  Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:41 PM
  Subject: Re: OT Re: "Green" solar battery charger - drop it already,
please.

  > Oh, for the love of god, please, please *please*  let's all let this
thread
  > die! Or at least carry the discussion over to some electronics list!
  >
  > Thanks,
  > Tim
  >
  > At 02:28 PM 11/19/2003 -0500, David Beierl wrote:
  > >At 03:19 AM 11/19/2003, Daniel L. Katz wrote:
  > >>On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 12:30:05 -0800, Ryan Press <ryan@PRESSLAB.US>
wrote:
  > >>
  > >>ryan:
  > >>
  > >>i agree with all you have said.
  > >>
  > >>after re-reading the many posts on this topic, i realized that perhaps
the
  > >>confusion could be cleared up by noting:
  > >>
  > >>1. the equation R = V/I is the mathematical definition of resistance,
and
  > >>is valid irrespective of whether a material is ohmic or non-ohmic.
  > >>
  > >>2. ohmic materials, however, obey the equation I = V/R, with R
constant;
  > >>i.e., ohm's law.
  > >>
  > >>here is a beautiful application of ohm's law.
  > >
  > >The short paper at http://www.av8n.com/physics/resistance.htm may help
the
  > >Ohm's Law uber alles party understand where Daniel is coming from and
  > >perhaps discover that the real area of disagreement is not so large as
they
  > >might think -- at any rate, that was its effect for me.  I recommend
it.
  > >
  > >:)
  > >david
  > >
  > >--
  > >David Beierl -- dbeierl@attglobal.net