

| Subject: | Bizarre Problem Solved |
| From: | Mike D. |
| Date: | Sun, 4 Jan 2004 15:01:10 -0800 |
My 85 Westy automatic (150k miles, California emission) was running poorly -- mechanic suggested a new AFM but noted that the main problem was low oil pressure probably due to worn bearings. Took it to the mechanic to get a new AFM and air filter, but after getting the van back it ran worse than ever (stalling both warm and cold). I tried adjusting the timing and idle bypass screw with little luck. Finally today I did a more comprehensive check of the engine. I also took apart the air box to see if the new filter had been added (it had). Surprise -- what did I find? With the air box removed I suddenly realized that the throttle manifold is rattling around loose. It turns out the two screws that hold it to the intake manifold were not even finger tight. After tightening it up and putting the airbox back on, the van now starts when cold, will now maintain a 950rpm idle and no longer stalls at any temperature. I'm still not sure WHY the throttle body was loose -- it could have been when my mechanic replaced the AFM, although removing those screws are not part of the procedure so it also could have been from the p.o.'s mechanic. I'm guessing that as the manifold shifted around, it would at various times leak or not leak air, explaining the erratic behavior. I also discovered a couple of vacuum lines that may have been cracked, so I replaced them too. Moral of the story? If you have a funky idle problem, check all air pathways. Since you can't really tell if the throttle body is loose when the airbox is on, you should remove the airbox. This has the added benefit of revealing more vacuum and air lines that are hard to get to otherwise. Now, I'm back to the original question: do I need a new engine? I'll save that for another email...
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