A right angle pneumatic drill will get in there. BTDT. It is a PITA but
possible. You will need to remove some brackets and hoses but it can be
done.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Frank Condelli
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 5:57 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Exaust

In a message dated 14/01/2004 1:47:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,
LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:

Can  anyone please tell me how this job can get done with out breaking
the
bolts  and making the job more expensive etc.

No !  There are lots of tricks but NO  guarantees.  Welding a nut to the
end
but the bolts at the rear would be  almost impossible to do that due to
space
restrictions and that's the same  reason that if those ones break off,
the
next best thing is to drop the  engine.  No way you can go there with a
drill to
drill out the broken studs  & bolts.  Penetrating liquid can be tried
but must
be continuously  applied and the area heated over a few days to have any
success and MOST times  the bolts & studs STILL break off so your just
wasting
time.  Something  that most shops won't want to do unless you willing to
pay for
this.  DO  NOT REMOVE THE HEADS.  Your just asking for more problems
doing
that.   If the nuts and bolts break off the best way is drop the engine.
Then
remove the remaining bolts & studs the best way you can. Then drill out
the
broken bolts & studs, fit helicoil thread repair inserts to all eight
locations
then use stainless steel bolts of the proper length at ALL  locations.
Don't
forget abut flat washers, lock washers and the mounting  tabs of the
push rod
tube covers when calculating the length of the bolts.   If the bolts are
too
long you WILL crack the heads and if they are too  short you will not
get a
good seal on the flange.  Clean up the exhaust  port gasket surface
before
putting the engine back.  Good clean surface  here is IMPORTANT to
having the
gaskets seal well.  ALSO, use Loctite  Ultra Copper High Temp Silicon
Sealant on
both sides of the gaskets.
To make all this expensive work worthwhile and to  not have to visit
this
scene again sometime in the future think about fitting a  stainless
steel exhaust
system.  See my _STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless Steel  Exhaust System_
(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm)  webpage for complete details
on what I have to
offer.
Cheers,

Frank  Condelli
Almonte, Ontario, Canada
_BusFusion_ (http://members.aol.com/BusFusion/bfhome.htm)  a VW Camper
camping event, Almonte, ON, June 10 ~ 13, 2004
'87 Westy & Lionel  Trains
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