>handles speed well until you have to turn or stop!  vanagon brakes suck.

Turning at high speeds with huge cars is always a problem. T4, T5, all don�t
corner well at top speed...

If you are driving that fast, improved brakes are a must, that�s right.
I have better brakes in combination with ABS. My Vanagon comes to a full
stop when necessary.

>You obviously have'nt researched or dont believe the results of safety
>ratings of vanagons.  They are rated as well below average for frontal
>collisions by the NTSA.

I read several Vanagon collision tests, old and new ones. The Vanagon seems
to be TOO stiff, but it is still safer than most (modern) japanese vans, for
example. But I tink it�s important not only to see the vanagon alone, but in
comparison to the middle class cars like Golfs. Vanagon versus Eurovan is a
completely other situation.
Golf or Vanagon? I say vanagon, although it can hurt you as good as any
other car...

Raimund