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Subject:Re: 16" Alloy wheels
From:Derek Drew
Date:Sun, 21 Mar 2004 11:54:02 -0500
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<font size=3>There are only two wheels in stock right now.&nbsp;
Normally, I would never let the stock get so low because I want to ensure
a spare supply of extra wheels to support existing owners. However, I
have another 50 wheels in transit to this location. They are expected in
about five weeks. <br><br>
The price is $210 per wheel plus up to $19 per wheel shipping, or as low
as $9 per wheel shipping to the east coast.<br><br>
The information about the wheels is at
<a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.htm</a><br><br>
I have an update about the load rating of the wheels. The number 900KGs
per wheel that I had been providing previously has been updated by the
factory into a specification geared to each bolt pattern. Here is the
bolt pattern specs:<br><br>
</font><font face="arial" size=2><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>pcd
112/ 5 holes offset 30&nbsp; 1000 kg.<br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>pcd 130/5
holes offset 50&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1150 kg<br>
<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>(you can
see, these wheel loads are depending from pcd/offset etc., 
too.)<br><br>
</font><font size=3>Accordingly, the actual load rating per wheel is
1,000KG in our Vanagon 112/5 pattern. <br><br>
At 11:04 AM 3/21/2004, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Yes, the wheels are supplied by
Derek. Send him an E-mail at<br>
derekdrew@rcn.com for pricing information. I think he is currently
sold<br>
out. <br><br>
Dennis<br><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Gary McEachern
[<a href="mailto:GlmceN@netscape.net" eudora="autourl">mailto:GlmceN@netscape.net</a>]
<br>
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 10:03 AM<br>
To: Dennis Haynes<br>
Subject: Re: WANTED: 15 or 16&quot; Steel wheels<br><br>
Hi Dennis,<br><br>
Are these the wheels you had on your Syncro last year at BBTB? I
like<br>
the way they look. Who makes them? What does Derrick charge for
them?<br><br>
Thanks<br><br>
Gary<br><br>
Dennis Haynes &lt;dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET&gt; wrote:<br><br>
&gt;A 215/70-16 is almost 28&quot; in diameter. For ultimate performance
and a<br>
&gt;slight gearing increase, I suggest 225/60-16. This is ~ 26.5
inch<br>
&gt;diameter. An inch taller and 1.5 inch wider than stock. A matched
spare<br>
&gt;will not fit in the tire carrier. The load ratings of standard
tires<br>
are<br>
&gt;adequate and both Dunlop and Michelin offer this size in
&quot;Reinforced&quot;<br>
&gt;versions. This is the size used on current Eurovans. 215/65-16's are
a<br>
&gt;little taller (27&quot;) and slightly narrower than the 225's. With
some<br>
&gt;mods, it can be fitted into the spare tire carrier if left deflated.
I<br>
&gt;am currently using this size and I think it is the ideal
compromise.<br>
The<br>
&gt;225/60 will make the speedometer and odometer read correctly.
The<br>
&gt;215/65's make it under read by about 1.5%. I just bought a 2nd set
of<br>
&gt;the CV-900 wheels from Derek Drew, (derekdrew@RCN.COM). Except for
the<br>
&gt;finish being a little soft, I think these wheels are great and
they<br>
look<br>
&gt;cool.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Dennis<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;-----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;From: Vanagon Mailing List
[<a href="mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com</a>]
On Behalf<br>
&gt;Of Jonathan Farrugia<br>
&gt;Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 2:21 AM<br>
&gt;To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<br>
&gt;Subject: Re: WANTED: 15 or 16&quot; Steel wheels<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;David<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;okay say with 215/70R16 tires would there be any rubbing or
clearance<br>
&gt;issues?&nbsp; also with these tires what would be approximately the
tightest<br>
&gt;clearance area.&nbsp; from pictures i have seen it looks like the
the<br>
&gt;clearance<br>
&gt;gets tight between the tire and the front of the rear trailing arm
as<br>
&gt;wheel/tire size is altered from the stock configuration.&nbsp; is
this true<br>
&gt;and<br>
&gt;are there any other areas where clearances become quite a bit
tighter.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;jonathan<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, David Marshall wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; It all depends on what size tire you put on the 16&quot;
rim!&nbsp; I would not<br>
&gt;go<br>
&gt;&gt; about 27&quot; on a 2WD Vanagon - something like a 215/70R16
would be<br>
nice.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; David Marshall<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Fast Forward Automotive Inc.<br>
&gt;&gt; 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road<br>
&gt;&gt; Quesnel BC Canada&nbsp; V2J 6Z3<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;
<a href="http://www.fastforward.ca��/" eudora="autourl">http://www.fastforward.ca&nbsp;
</a>
<a href="mailto:sales@fastforward.ca" eudora="autourl">mailto:sales@fastforward.ca</a><br>
&gt;&gt; Phone: (250) 992 7775&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
FAX: (250) 992 1160<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions<br>
&gt;&gt; - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation<br>
&gt;&gt; - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Due to the large volume of email&nbsp; we&nbsp; receive,&nbsp;
PLEASE&nbsp; include<br>
&gt;previous<br>
&gt;&gt; emails when responding.&nbsp; This will allow us to read the
complete<br>
&gt;dialogue<br>
&gt;&gt; in one message and will result in quicker and more&nbsp;
accurate<br>
&gt;responses.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;&gt; From: Vanagon Mailing List
[<a href="mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com</a>]On<br>
Behalf<br>
&gt;&gt; Of Jonathan Farrugia<br>
&gt;&gt; Sent: March 19, 2004 10:43 PM<br>
&gt;&gt; To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<br>
&gt;&gt; Subject: Re: WANTED: 15 or 16&quot; Steel wheels<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; David<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; will either of your 16&quot; wheels fit on a 2wd van (1984) with
out<br>
&gt;rubbing?<br>
&gt;&gt; if so what tire sizes would one need to use on the 16&quot;
wheels, and<br>
&gt;what<br>
&gt;&gt; would be approximately the smallest/tightest clearance area when
the<br>
&gt;&gt; wheels/tires are installed.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; jonathan<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; On Fri, 19 Mar 2004, David Marshall wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; I usually stock 15 x 6.0 ET 30 and 16 x 6.0 ET 30 steel
wheels -<br>
but<br>
&gt;they<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; are sold out at the moment.&nbsp; The 16s will be in stock
the first<br>
week<br>
&gt;of<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; April, 15s the first week of June.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; See
<a href="http://www.fastforward.ca/vanagon/vanagon.htm#wheels" eudora="autourl">http://www.fastforward.ca/vanagon/vanagon.htm#wheels</a>
for more<br>
&gt;info and<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; pricing.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; David Marshall<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Fast Forward Automotive Inc.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Quesnel BC Canada&nbsp; V2J 6Z3<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.fastforward.ca��/" eudora="autourl">http://www.fastforward.ca&nbsp; </a> <a href="mailto:sales@fastforward.ca" eudora="autourl">mailto:sales@fastforward.ca</a><br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Phone: (250) 992 7775&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; FAX: (250) 992 1160<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Due to the large volume of email&nbsp; we&nbsp; receive,&nbsp; PLEASE&nbsp; include<br>
&gt;previous<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; emails when responding.&nbsp; This will allow us to read the complete<br>
&gt;dialogue<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; in one message and will result in quicker and more&nbsp; accurate<br>
&gt;responses.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; From: Vanagon Mailing List [<a href="mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com" eudora="autourl">mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com</a>]On<br>
&gt;Behalf<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Of Wes Ullrich<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Sent: March 19, 2004 6:59 PM<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Subject: WANTED: 15 or 16&quot; Steel wheels<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Does anyone have some 15 or 16&quot; (if they exist) steel wheels they<br>
&gt;are<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; looking to sell? I would consider alloys as well if the price is<br>
&gt;right. To<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; fit a 84 2WD westy.<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; Wes<br>
&gt;&gt; &gt; 84 Westy &quot;Elli&quot;<br>
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<br>
-- <br>
Gary McEachern<br>
Reading, Ma<br>
'90 Westy Subavanagon<br>
'87 Wolfy Subavanagon<br><br>
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Derek Drew&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Washington, DC<br>
derekdrew@rcn.com<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Phone 202-966-7907<br>
Email me for viscous coupling s&nbsp; (Cell 703-408-1532)<br>
'90 Syncro Westfalia... <br>
...seen off-road at <br>
<a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/Syncro_Madness_Area.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/Syncro_Madness_Area.htm<br>
</a>...seen with 30.5&quot; tall tires at<br>
<a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/images/dereks245_75_16.jpg" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/images/dereks245_75_16.jpg</a> <br>
Note: most valuable Vanagon sites on the planet (for owners) are:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon" eudora="autourl">http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?S1=vanagon<br>
</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/" eudora="autourl">http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/<br>
</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro</a> <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.vanagon.com/" eudora="autourl">http://www.vanagon.com</a> <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.syncro.org/" eudora="autourl">http://www.syncro.org</a> <br>
Many of my Syncro list postings consolidated<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/messagesearch?query=212-580-6486" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/messagesearch?query=212-580-6486<br>
</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/messagesearch?query=202-966-7907" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/messagesearch?query=202-966-7907</a> <br>
My refrigerator article:&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/Refrigerator/Reefer_Madness.htm" eudora="autourl">http://www.vanagon.com/info/articles/Refrigerator/Reefer_Madness.htm<br>
</a>All About 16&quot; Wheels And The CV-900.htm<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/All_About_16-Wheels_And_The_CV_900.htm<br>
</a>All About Viscous Couplings<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/viscous_couplings_vanagon_syncro.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/vanagon/viscous_couplings_vanagon_syncro.htm<br>
</a>How To Live With Heavy List Volume--Mail Filters<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7403" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7403<br>
</a>My article that shows how to deal with insurance companies: <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/auto-insurance-madness.html" eudora="autourl">http://gerry.vanagon.com/files/auto-insurance-madness.html<br>
</a>To read some material about how to add a front differential lock to your syncro<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/13105" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/13105<br>
</a>To view Wolfgang's incredibly informative wheel article<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/fitbigtiresonvanagon.htm" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/fitbigtiresonvanagon.htm</a> <br>
To view Tim Smith's incredibly useful gearing calculator<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/syncrotireandgearratios.xls" eudora="autourl">http://users.rcn.com/derekdrew/syncrotireandgearratios.xls</a> <br>
To view two articles about how to think about improving your gears at transmission rebuild time<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7207" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7207<br>
</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7221" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/7221<br>
</a>To view an overview article about choices in larger sized tires see<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/11535" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/11535</a> <br>
To view some 16&quot; Trailing Arms that enable much larger tires see<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncrolist/files/Wheels,%20Tires%20%26%20Gearing/Wheel%20%26%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syncrolist/files/Wheels%2C%20Tires%20%26%20Gearing/Wheel%20%26%20Tire%20Photos/16_Inch_Trailing_Arm.jpg<br>
</a>My article about belt protectors and CV joint protectors<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/6112" eudora="autourl">http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Syncro/message/6112<br>
</a>SYNCRO OWNERS WHO DRIVE OFF THE ROAD:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; You only get to change your ring and pinions once every 10 years <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; because that's how long the average syncro transmission goes before <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; its next rebuild. If you want bigger tires and more ground clearance<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; start planning your higher number ring and pinion sets right now so you <br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; can take advantage of your next trans rebuild. <br>
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