

| Subject: | Re: 86 Vanagon unstable idle (thanks for replies) |
| From: | Jeff Hartman |
| Date: | Thu, 1 Apr 2004 22:44:47 -0900 |
Sincere thanks to Ken, Charlie, Eric and John (did I forget anyone?) for the diagnostic tips to solve my weird cyclic idle problem that no mechanic in our one-horse-town �Juneau, Alaska has been able to solve. My guess is the advice from the Vanagon list will again bail me out like so many times before. Next week I move the van into the garage and start going methodically through the lists. I will report back. Thanks, Jeff 1986 Vanagon With AST conversion >From: John Rodgers <jh_rodgers@bellsouth.net> >To: Jeff Hartman <jeffhartman11@HOTMAIL.COM> >CC: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: 86 Vanagon unstable idle >Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 09:45:23 -0600 > >Jeff, I had a problem with erratic idle on my 88 GL, as you describe. With >the engine warm, I disconnected the idle stabilizer valve and the erratic >idle stabilized. Supposedly the idle stabilizer is cut out of the circuit >when the engine warms up, but if there is a fault in the idle stabilizer >circuit - either the ISV(up on top of the engine or the Idle Stabilizer >Control (ISC) - a black box located just forward of the right hand brake >light (remove the tail light for access)- this erratic idle can occur. > >If this is the source of the problem, you can drive quite safely with it >disconnected until you can get the right repair. > >The idle stabilizer circuit does three things. >1) Kicks up the idle until warm-up after a cold start >2) Kicks up the engine RPM to avoid stalling when the power steering turn >limits are reached ant the power steering pump is loaded. >3) Kicks up the RPM to avoid stalling at stoplights, etc, in traffic, when >the air conditioner cycles on and off. > >Good Luck. > >John Rodgers >88 GL Driver >Jeff Hartman wrote: > >>Hi, I have been struggling with an unstable idle. It is very cyclic and >>the >>cycles and frequency increase with an electric load (fans etc.) With the >>O2 >>sensor and temp sensor replaced, and other tuneup adjustments made, the VW >>dealership claims I need a mass airflow sensor. This was determined >>without >>any computer diagnostics. In fact the dealer's service department says >>that >>their new computer testing equipment no longer can test our obsolete >>Vanagons. >> >>I don't have a lot of faith in them, so do you have any ideas of whether >>they are right and what I should test next? I made a cursory review of the >>archives over a couple of recent years, without finding this exact problem >>described. >>Thanks, Jeff Hartman >>Juneau, Alaska >>86 2.1 Vanagon >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar � FREE! >>http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/ >> > _________________________________________________________________ Persistent heartburn? Check out Digestive Health & Wellness for information and advice. http://gerd.msn.com/default.asp
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