tom:

as is well known on the list, in this context "blue", "green",
and "orange" are short hand for actual chemical strategies.

and, "effing" is a euphemism we could do without.

incidently, if you are worried about long threads, recall that i am not
the one who mis-spent his youth on misguided attempts to revise ohm's law.

dan

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 21:00:27 -0600, tom ring <taring@TARING.ORG> wrote:

>So you would start a huge thread based on what is essentially food
coloring?
>
>Is it Friday?
>
>The color is effing meaningless, the contents are not.
>
>tom
>
>
>On 28 Apr 2004 at 21:40, Daniel L. Katz wrote:
>
>> gary:
>>
>> also, and i hope this does start a huge thread, i would not use orange
>> stuff. orange stuff can turn coolant into jell in a dirty, corroded,
well
>> worn system. if previous coolant was vw blue, i would definitely stick
>> with that; if it was green, i would stick with nominal green chemistry,
>> and use a good quality meat and potatoes green anti-freeze, such as sold
>> by napa. at this point, i recommend circulating lots and lots of pure,
>> clean water through that system and then adding blue or green stuff as
>> needed.
>>
>> dan
>>
>> On Mon, 26 Apr 2004 09:11:59 -0700, gary hradek <hradek@YAHOO.COM>
wrote:
>>
>> >I have been dealing with a conditon that I believe to
>> >be a plugged radiator.   I have ruled out most other
>> >cheaper fixes.   Over the past week I have isolated
>> >the radiator at the point of the rear most end of the
>> >big pipes and plugged them with corks and soaked the
>> >isolated system with 0.2M citric acid for a week.
>> >Flushing the system with hot water under house
>> >pressure gave a flow rate about 6 gallons per second.
>> >The first flush was very black and showed evidence of
>> >bits of aluminum from what I am hoping to be some
>> >after market sealer rather than the radiator itself.
>> >After flushing the system I filled with the orange
>> >stuff.   What I find intersting about the vanagon
>> >coolant system is that the flow rate for water alone
>> >is much faster than with antifreeze added.   This is
>> >reflected well by the (temperature at idle as seen by
>> >the gauge) TAI.
>> >The TAI with water alone is much lower and at position
>> >determined by the thermostat.   The low speed fan has
>> >no problem keeping the engine temperature on the red
>> >light dot even on a very hot day.   Once you add
>> >antifreeze the TAI goes up above the light unless you
>> >increase the rpm.   The TIA on a hot day(about 95)
>> >will respond more slowly to the cooling affect of the
>> >low speed fan.
>> >   My question is would I be better off adding less
>> >antifreeze and more water and perhaps adding some
>> >after market corrosion inhibitor and water pump
>> >lubricant?   thanks gary
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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