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Subject:Re: New Engine report
From:ROBERT DONALDS
Date:Fri, 23 Apr 2004 08:08:58 -0400

Frank

It's very rare that I have found the need to defend myself on this list for
anything other than my spelling and grammar BUT with all due respect
Problems with Boston Bobs engine makes it sound like I did not build you a
good engine and that's not a correct representation of the facts in this
matter.
Why don't you tell the list what we found when we took your Boston Bob Big
valve engine apart
after only 8 thousand miles. If you don't I will
sounds like your gas mileage reflects the load what was the vans weight five
thousand pds is my guess
Frank your trying to make me look bad and I took excellent care of you
I'm disappointed in you

I'm very proud of my products and I stand behind them sometimes more than I
should
nobody does it better
no brag just the facts

Bob Donalds
Boston Engine

----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Condelli" <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 6:58 AM
Subject: New Engine report

> After taking my '87 Westy to Everybus and back I  think an engine report
is
> due.  Many of you may know of the problems I had  with my Boston Bob's Big
> Valve Engine.  Well, it finally got rebuilt and  the trip to Everybus was
its
> first big trip after break in.  You may also  recall my concern about oil
pressure
> on the first engine and then the second  engine so these are the main
reason
> for this report.  See _Vanagon 2.1 Engine Oil Pressure  Survey_
> (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/survey.htm)  .  I also want to add that I
installed one of
> those  performance chips in the ECU back in January so that has some
bearing on
> this  report.
> Travelling many miles with my friends Tom & Ina  from Detroit in their '87
> Westy similarly loaded but with a well used OEM engine  I did not notice
any
> perceptible difference in performance in acceleration or  cruising.  When
pulling
> on to freeways I could not out accelerate them but  seem to be making the
> same performance as they were.  On the highway  cruising we both seemed to
have
> the same power.  So big valves and  performance chip I don't see what's up
with
> that except low gas mileage.  I  will say that I was able to climb hills a
> bit better and not have to shift to  third as often
but.................?????
> I'm thinking a well built  stock configured engine and no performance chip
is
> the best most  economical, reliable way to go. But, I will reserve final
> judgement  until the end of my summers travels !
> Everybus 2004 trip - gas & mileage - April 13 ~ 22
> 1987 Westfalia - fully loaded with two persons and dog on board.
> Mobile 1 full synthetic oil - first use since break in - 4901 km ~ 2942
> miles on new engine
> Oil filter - Hengst, H14W04
> Oil pressure readings taken after full day of highway running, average
speed
> - 120 km/hr
> idle - 5 lbs
> 2000 rpm - 16 lbs
> 4000 rpm - 37 lbs - steady throughout trip.
> Total distance of trip - 4012.6 km ~2408.52 mi
> Gas consumption - 641.67 litres ~ 141.154 gal. = 6.25 l/km ~ 17.06  mpg
> Oil consumption - 2 litres
> Cheers,
>
> Frank  Condelli
> Almonte, Ontario, Canada
> _BusFusion_ (http://members.aol.com/BusFusion/bfhome.htm)  a VW Camper
> camping event, Almonte, ON, June 10 ~ 13, 2004
> '87 Westy & Lionel  Trains
> Member: _Vanagon List_ (http://www.vanagon.com/) , _LiMBO_
> (http://www.bcn.net/~limbo/) , _IWCCC_ (http://www.westfalia.qc.ca/)  &
_CCVWC_
> (http://www.ccvwc.ca/)
> Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in  the Ottawa Valley
> _STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless Steel  Mufflers_
> (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm)
> _Frank Condelli &  Associates_
(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html)
> or  http://frankcondelli.com