I will second the info. about the Stebro exhausts.

My Syncro Westy has a complete stainless system and only the CAT shows
discoloring after 18 months, no rust what so ever.

dylan
----- Original Message -----
Wrom: MHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDX
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: bus depot exhaust rusting prematurely? / It's Not the Rust,
It's

> In a message dated 02/05/2004 2:40:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:
>
> About 15  years ago when I needed to renew an exhaust system, I called
Gordi
> at  4ever4.  He said he only used VW OE exhaust parts.  After I whined
about
> the
> cost, I asked him if he had a line on a stainless system.   He said,
"Look, a
> VW OE exhaust part lasts 75000 - 90000 miles.  What  more could you ask
for?"
> He was right.  And, I think Gordi is in one  of those balmier climates . .

> like New  Hampshire.
>
> The _STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless  Steel_
> (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm)  guy just has to jump in here.
You left me no choice !  The  all stainless
> steel system on my '87 Westy has been on there for eight years  now.  Van
is
> driven everyday all year round on the, well salted in  winter, roads of
the
> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada area.  Muffler & J-pipe by  STEBRO, CAT by Emico,
header
> pipes by Dansk.  Mileage is not the only  determining factor.  I think we
> could drive the vehicle 75,000 ~ 90,000  miles without encountering
conditions
> which induce rusting of the  components.  Yes, I know about the
condensation
> factor and heating and  cooling cycles, yada, yada, yada !  Still,
stainless
> steel will outlast  anything you bring forward !
> Cheers,
>
> Frank  Condelli
> Almonte, Ontario, Canada
> _BusFusion_ (http://members.aol.com/BusFusion/bfhome.htm)  a VW Camper
> camping event, Almonte, ON, June 10 ~ 13, 2004
> '87 Westy & Lionel  Trains
> Member: _Vanagon List_ (http://www.vanagon.com/) , _LiMBO_
> (http://www.bcn.net/~limbo/) , _IWCCC_ (http://www.westfalia.qc.ca/)  &
_CCVWC_
> (http://www.ccvwc.ca/)
> Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in  the Ottawa Valley
> _STEBRO/Vanagon Stainless Steel  Mufflers_
> (http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/stebro.htm)
> _Frank Condelli &  Associates_
(http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/busindex.html)
> or  http://frankcondelli.com
>