Joy:
When I wrecked my Vanagon in Dallas last fall, and was stranded 200 miles
from home, I called Stan.  Within about 30 minutes, driving in evening rush
hour traffic, he was there with good advice (trailer the van home, instead
of trying to jury-rig a repair; sound familiar?), and an offer to help me
find local parts, should I ignore his advice.  Based on his actions (and not
just words), I think he "knows" about generosity, as defined by your
previous post (below).  Perhaps you should be less generous with commentary
about people you don't really know.

Cary

----- Original Message -----
From: Joy Hecht <jhecht@ALUM.MIT.EDU>
To: <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 9:12 PM
Subject: generosity (was RE: Roadhaus - Need an Engine

> Stan, do you know about generosity?  With nothing expected in return,
> perhaps to people you don't know, simply because they need help and you
are
> able to provide it, and perhaps you are giving up much less than they are
> receiving?  Without judging whether they should or shouldn't have gotten
> themselves into a position of being able to benefit from your help?
>
> It's a nice thing.  You might want to try it sometime.
>
>
> Joy
>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Joy Hecht
> and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon
> and Henrietta, sad-eyed orangutan who waltzes with Matilda and me
> and Bicycle and Kayak, who ride on Matilda
>
> For musings about life and the vanadventures:
> http://users.rcn.com/jhecht/gypsy
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
> > Of Stan Wilder
> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 2:28 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Roadhaus - Need an Engine
> >
> >
> > Good going John.
> > Speak your mind and get real.
> > Getting Larry back on the road in an emergency such an AIRS assistance
to
> > get him back home to his family and job is one thing.
> > Getting him back on the road to continue a trip to VW Events
> > throughout the
> > country is just a useless effort since a repaired engine or new engine
> > doesn't fix a deeper problem that exist.
> > The problem is "What Next"?
> > If he's out of money to repair his engine and continue his trip then
it's
> > all over because the Fat Lady just finished singing.
> > Go home Larry.
> > Do the same as we'd all be doing.
> > There is always the simple truth that you really don't know anybody.
> > I've had friends with cancer that expected three years to live and they
> > spent accordingly just synchronizing the 36th month to the
> > expected last of
> > their cash. Naturally the fickle finger of fate gave them another 15
years
> > to regret their spending habits.
> > If Larry is a sick man and just going for his 15 minutes of fame I'm
sure
> > I'll get chastised heavily.
> >
> > Stan Wilder
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Runberg" <jrunberg@MAC.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 11:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: Roadhaus - Need an Engine
> >
> >
> > > The thing that upsets be about this thread is the belief Larry asked
for
> > financial assitance - something that Eric, Stan and others appear to be
> > offended by. Offended enough to dress down those people on the list in
> > support of donation, even though it's not the truth.
> > >
> > > Someone mentioned it earlier, but I believe it should be stated again:
> > Larry DID NOT ask for financial help, only for leads on a cheap
> > engine. The
> > donation idea was from members of the list. To criticize me, or
> > anyone else,
> > for doing what I wish with my $$ is shameful at best, although
> > often par for
> > the course on this list.
> > >
> > > john
> >
>
>