

| Subject: | Re: Diesels on NPR this morning |
| From: | tmiller |
| Date: | Wed, 12 May 2004 21:07:03 -0400 |
We aren't talking about using much new veg. oil, only recycled oils and animal fats. Jim Felder wrote: > If I remember correctly, the amount of vegetable protein required to > produce a pound of animal protein is about 8-1. I know this doesn't > proves anything, just, er, food for thought. Theoretically, a purely > fish/seafood/vegetarian diet would allow a lot of acreage to be put > into oil production, but it wouldn't be 8-1 because of the increased > amount of vegetable protein we humans would consume to offset the loss > of animal protein. > > Jim > > On May 12, 2004, at 6:40 PM, Donald Baxter / Iowa City, Iowa wrote: > >> Hmmm... Just what we need more food diverted to something other than >> feeding >> people. I have to preface this by saying I'm no pure vegetarian here >> so I'm >> just as much a part of the problem as anyone else, but we're diverting >> enough protein for the production of livestock--then we divert more of >> it to >> biodiesel and I think we're further and further away from a sustainable >> fuel. >> >> And NOX and particulate matter, from what I've read, are not addressed >> by >> switching from mineral diesel fuels to vegetable diesels. The new >> TDIs are >> amazing engineering feats to be sure--and I think they have catalytic >> converters just like the old VW EcoDiesels, but if the USA ever adopts >> these >> things on the scale that Europe has, we'll be cleaning soot off our >> windowsills just like the Parisians do. >> >> If any can send me something to read that can convince me otherwise >> send it >> on! >> >> Donald Baxter >> '85 Vanagon GL (that I'm sure is just as filthy as it can be but Iowa >> isn't >> testing emissions yet) >> Iowa City >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "P. Stanhope" <napszeerf@YAHOO.COM> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:05 PM >> Subject: Re: Diesels on NPR this morning >> >> >>> WORD! yes Bio-diesel burns alot cleaner than >>> synthetic diesel. If we could convince all our >>> shipping companys to use bio-diesel, there would be >>> alot less soot everywhere and alot more truck drivers >>> living to the age of 60. >>> With all the surplus corn and peanuts we produce, we >>> should be able to power ALL diesels off of >>> bio-diesel...and simultaniously taking the profit$ >>> away from the Saudis....talk about patriotism! >>> >>> Phil >> >> > >
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