As of now, Diesel cars are not available for purchase new in lower New
York either. However, there is now issue getting RV's trucks, busses,
vans, etc. We also have Diesel emissions testing for all vehicles over
8,500 pounds. The new motorhome goes for its test next Thursday.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Robert Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:00 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Diesels on NPR this morning

I'm curious about this diesel ban in California I keep reading about on
here. I haven't looked _real_ hard yet, but the only thing I seen thus
far
has to with a air-quality authority in SoCal that tried to force owner
of
larger fleets (15 or more) to buy alternative fuel vehicles in a
regulation
that, by its wording, prohibited diesel engines, etc. The U.S. Supreme
Court
recently shot this reg down, saying the air board overstepped their
legal
authority/boundaries.
Did I miss something else? I'm curious- I live in SoCal and haven't
heard
anything about any diesel ban, and I do crawl out from under my rock
once in
a while... : )

Robert
'87 GL

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Dodson" <steven@EPOCHDESIGN.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: Diesels on NPR this morning

> Thanks Jonathan,
> You took the words out of my mouth.
> What is not shown on this website is that the 2004 model year VW TDI
have
> been banned in CA do to this Teir-2 change. These calcs are based on
> petrol-diesel and not biodiesel, which would have substantially less
> emissions. If VW equips their US bound TDI's with the new soot filters
> available in Europe, they will come close to 10 on the list (10 being
best),
> burning Petrol-diesel and be available again in CA (California). The
oil
> companies are injecting billions of dollars into keeping petroleum
powered
> cars on the road.  If you hybridized a small displacement TDI like the
1.2L
> Lupo engine, you'd have a runaway contender for best mileage and
emissions.
> The trick here is to run B100. We just need to get off the dinojuice.
>
> -Steven Dodson
> Kneeland, CA
> "Inga" the 87 Syncro
>
> ----Original message----
> Date:    Wed, 12 May 2004 12:50:46 -0400
> From:    Jonathan Farrugia <jfarrugi@UMICH.EDU>
> Subject: Re: Diesels on NPR this morning
>
> looks good and thanks for the post but, i would assume that these
studies
> are based on the use of fossil diesel fuel.  my understanding is if
you
> run B100 (biodiesel 100%) these numbers come way down in closer
standing
> with gasoline burning cars.
>
> jonathan