> This list attracts a certain idealistic youthful component who
identify the
> Vanagon as a vehicle of escape and freedom. Probably an extension of
the
> hippies in the '60's.
> On the other hand, some of us appreciate the German design and other
more
> tangible aspects of the machine.
> When these two idologies meet, sparks can ensue...

so if i'm idealistic (but not youthful?) and identify the vanagon as a
vehicle of escape and freedom, having lived through the '60's (and
sometimes referred to as a 'holdover hippie')
AND
appreciate the german design and other more tangible aspects of my
machines ...

...that would explain the sparks that ofttimes are seen coming out my
butt??

:)