I noticed an interesting slant to the article... apparently Subaru
is the "bad guy" for *exploiting* the SUV loophole, not the US government
for leaving it open...

Still reading between the lines, and coloring outside them,

Tim

At 02:51 PM 5/27/2004 -0400, Myers, Thomas A wrote:
>Apparently subaru sells "trucks"  [ not sedans or wagons ] now....
>
>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4191589/
>
>
>Tom
>
>         ----------
>         From:   Vanagon Mailing List on behalf of Andrew Fox
>         Reply To:       Andrew Fox
>         Sent:   Thursday, May 27, 2004 12:07 PM
>         To:     vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>         Subject:        Re: Subaru Engines (NVC)
>
>         Dont you people care about gas mileage?  The new subaru's are only
>getting
>         in the low to mid 20's, barley better than the small SUVs?  I have a
>92
>         legacy wagon AWD, gets over 30 mpg, gutless yet, but cheap to drive
>and
>         bulletproof.  I for one am very disappointed that subaru has gone
>from
>         producing fuel efficent cars for the masses to satisfying the needs
>of the
>         few with the deep pockets, its just like honda and vw, noone wants
>to make
>         a cheap car these days, honda no longer sells a small fuel efficent
>         hatchback, their only hatchback is an overpriced suped up stupid
>looking
>         model for stupid kids.  VW is selling overpriced made in mexico
>yuppy
>         cars, and overpriced SUVs and sportcars for those with more money
>than
>         brains.  The practical car market is going to the koreans (kia's and
>         hyndai's).
>
>         Andrew
>
>
>
>         On Thu, 27 May 2004, Mike Blotz wrote:
>
>         > the choices are actually 2.2, 2.5 phase 1 and 2 (DOHC or
>SOHC--better),
>         > 3.3 SVX, 2.0 WRX and the newer 2.5 turbo. I am doing the 2.2 swap
>from a
>         > 90 legacy on my syncro as we speak--almost done. they are bullit
>proof
>         > engines--as well as the turbo 2.0 WRX.
>         >
>         > main reason subaru made the 2.0 turbo WRX is because it was the
>consumer
>         > version of there rally WRX impreza. rally cars are limited to
>2.0L. that
>         > is the reason. now they have a consumer version of there STI WRX
>which
>         > is a 2.5 turbo. and same motor detuned in the forester and coming
>out
>         > next week--the new legacy line (ive been waiting a year for that)
>yes--i
>         > drive subarus as a daily driver here in CO (legacy 2.5GT wagen).
>even
>         > with my 2.2 90 legacy motor i am 35 hp ahead (130hp) and--I forget
>the
>         > number exactly--but close to 25 more ft lbs of torque. there is a
>guy
>         > local to me doing a WRX conversion as well--cant wait to see it. I
>know
>         > he only has something like 28K ORIGINAL miles on his syncro and
>         > tranny--which would probably be the weak link with that much HP
>and
>         > torque.
>         >
>         > ps--I drove the WRX when they unloaded it from the truck here in
>         > CO--demo car--they didnt care how it was driven. very far from
>gutless
>         > here at elevation 9hich doesnt effect turbos much anyway)--holy
>cow--mr
>         > lawman/insuranceman wouldnt let me have one
>         >
>         > mike
>         >