On Wed, 2 Jun 2004, Aristotle Sagan wrote:

> Nope, no way. The kids like the 84 van but ya know, no shoulder belts, no
> rides. As soon as the kids were out of baby seats, the van became a extra.

It's amazing how times change.

When I was a kid, *none* of the vehicles I rode in ever had rear safety
belts.  (They didn't appear in most American cars until well into the 90s,
and then only for the outboard seats.)  When I was really young, I
remember sharing the middle seatbelt in an old Ford pickup with my sister.
That truck didn't even have a padded dashboard.  In fact, I got the
impression we were a bit unusual as a family for even wearing seatbelts at
all.

Most people are a lot more safety-conscious these days, and that's a Good
Thing.

David Brodbeck, N8SRE
'86 Volvo 240DL wagon
'82 VW Vanagon Westfalia Diesel