Tim,

Profanity on the list will not be tolerated. I know you didn't use the exact
profane words, but the expression was just as vulgar.

Please refrain from this activity, and consider yourself warned.

Thanks from your Vanagon list admin,
TomC

-----Original Message-----
From: Aristotle Sagan
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: 6/3/04 2:26 AM
Subject: Re: Non-Family Hauler

Nope, no way. The kids like the 84 van but ya know, no shoulder belts,
no
rides. As soon as the kids were out of baby seats, the van became a
extra.

Volkswagen proved that saving 30 bucks a vehicle and making a much
unsafer
van... just don't cut it.

<expression deleted>

So some day I will finish making the 84 into a Westy type vehicle. It
will
serve my SO and I for trips to the mountains and seashore. Until then, I
haul junk in it.

Do I sound bitter? Be prepared. Get yourself another real vehicle. I
hope
you don't regret selling the Toyota. How the heck could you  not have
enough
room in it. We did fine with a Saab 9000.

tim in san jose