

| Subject: | Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon |
| From: | tmiller |
| Date: | Fri, 4 Jun 2004 21:06:46 -0400 |
Tom: That is not uncommon. I have seen oil filter canisters burst because the cold dino oil did not want to move causing the pressure to build to the bursting point. This is where you get a lot of startup wear. Oil isn't getting to the parts. High oil pressure means no oil flow. Not a good thing. TEMiller tom ring wrote: >10-30 dino oil in my 84 GTI would leak out about a quarter cup around the >filter gasket during startuip/warmup at 20 below here in MN. Mobil 1 10-30 >would not. Same filter, same gasket, same temp. I also had an oil pressure >gauge which showed much higher cold startup pressures with dino. 200 psi+, >pinned at as high as it would read, and that at idle. That unknown, but high, >pressure was confirmed by my VW dealership as being typical with dino in the >winter on the inline 4 engine. > >tom > >On 2 Jun 2004 at 11:53, Tom Miller wrote: > > > >>I've been in -40 temps in Idaho in January and up in Kapuskasing, Ontario >>where GM has (used to have?) their Cold Weather Testing Station. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jeff Palmer" <icecoldvw@HOTMAIL.COM> >>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 12:18 AM >>Subject: Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon >> >> >> >> >>>Careful Robert - I am tempted to leave this -40 environment and head south >>>to open up a can of whoop ass come this February. >>> >>>Jeff in Winnipeg >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Robert Fisher" <refisher@MCHSI.COM> >>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 10:57 PM >>>Subject: Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>More sense for what? Burning it so you don't freeze your ass off? Why in >>>> >>>> >>>the >>> >>> >>>>hell would you want to go outside in -40 temps anyway? How does 'more >>>> >>>> >>>sense' >>> >>> >>>>fit in with being outside when it's 40 below? >>>>: ) >>>> >>>>Sorry, couldn't resist... >>>> >>>>Robert >>>>in SoCal (who hasn't been in -40 weather since his navy ship went into >>>> >>>> >>the >> >> >>>>Arctic Circle back in '87) >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Mike Collum" <collum@VERIZON.NET> >>>>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 8:35 PM >>>>Subject: Re: Synthetic oils in the vanagon >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Let's talk about the other end of the oil problem. Flowing in >>>>> >>>>> >>extremely >> >> >>>>>cold weather. >>>>> >>>>>Does synthetic oil make more sense when the outside temperature >>>>> >>>>> >>is -40� >> >> >>>F >>> >>> >>>>? >>>> >>>> >>>>>Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> > > >------ >Tom Ring K0TAR, ex-WA2PHW EN34hx >85 Westphalia GL Albert >96 Jetta GL The Intimidator >taring@taring.org > >"It is better to go into a turn slow, and come out fast, than to go into a turn fast >and come out dead." Stirling Moss > > > >
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