

| Subject: | Re: Was: Why are campers higher at the rear? NOW: Westy air drag |
| From: | Simon Reinhardt |
| Date: | Fri, 11 Jun 2004 09:43:05 -0600 |
Yes, but what about when the load is not just behind the rear seat, and what if a driver and passenger are going to get in? Now the fronts need to handle a load as well! Jeez, it's depressing, but maybe this is all boiling down to craptastic quality control wherever Vanagon springs were made... Anyway, I get what you're saying about load handling, but I'm saying that a spring can be stiff w/out being tall. Take the sport springs in the Cabby I'm selling (shameless plug!). They're lower AND stiffer than stock, and I can still carry a full load of people and their junk. I'm curious- did the load rating of the Van decrease when it got the shorter Carat springs later on? Anyone know? I've been thinking about a big piece of aluminum that would attach to the cargo cleats. Then we have to get access to a wind tunnel... Actually, looking at the turbulence, maybe a flat panel AND a mid-roof spoiler would be the way to go. We just need to smooth out that turbulence somehow! Anyone ready to rice out your Van? -SImon On Jun 11, 2004, at 6:33 AM, Chris S. wrote: >> "But Simon, the rears are stiffer than the fronts because of the >> engine's weight!"- No, stiffness and height are not necessarily >> entwined. > > May I remind you of the Vanagon's 50/50 front-to-rear weight > distribution? > Yes, there's an engine back there but the total weight pressing down > on > the rear springs is same as the front. Rear springs are stiffer to > handle > more when the van is loaded. > >> >> http://www.farrside.net/vanagon/windtests.jpg >> > > Stock Vanagon CD (coefficient of drag): .44 > Flat pop-top: .45 > Westfalia pop-top: .51 <--- that sucks > High-top: .40 > Camper-back: .46 <---- still better than the Westfalia pop-top > > Based on the picture my presumptions that carrying a flat, wide load, > such > as a cargo box, in the top luggage would reduce turbulence thus > decreasing > CD. Putting a plastic lid on the rack that slightly bulges out would > have > an even better effect and save fuel when on the road. Project, anyone? > Any fiberglass masters out there? > > > > > Chris S. > '85 Wolfsburg Westy "Camel" > http://www.knology.net/~vw/dadada.jpg >
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