

| Subject: | Re: vanagon single electrode plugs |
| From: | Bruce Nadig |
| Date: | Fri, 11 Jun 2004 14:44:27 -0500 |
I think that the whole multiple electrode craze is actually driven by the federal government. They are having tighter and tighter emissions standards, and ANY component that may potentially affect emissions must have a longer service life. Right now I think that the feds want parts to last 100,000 miles. So, if you are a car manufacturer, and you have to make a part that is a wear item, which ultimately a spark plug is, last longer, you have to become inventive. If one electrode will erode away well before 100,000, why not add a second? If two won't make it why not add a third? Now you still have the issue of the single center electrode. That is handled by the increasingly exotic metals used for the electrodes (copper, then platinum, now iridium). So, that gives us a situation where the large manufacturers have their suppliers develop (or develop in cooperation with them) these plugs that will last as long as needed. Once those suppliers have started making them, and they have R&D money tied up in them, why not try to convince EVERYONE that they need these plugs? It only takes a few more marketing dollars to try to get more return on your R&D dollars. Personally I think that perhaps the maximum number of electrodes I would like on my own plugs is two. If you have many more than this, the spark is going to become shrouded, and the fuel/air mixture will have a hard time making its way to the spark and you won't get a good clean/complete/powerful burn. Any of you hot rodders out there remember the indexing washers for sparkplugs? These were essentially shims that you would use to "aim" your spark plug when installing your plugs in the head. When torqued, if your plug wasn't at the optimum angle (spark not facing the most turbulent fuel/air mixture), you pulled the plug out threw in one or two more indexing washers and the angle of the plug could be aimed to optimize burn for most power (they weren't worried about emissions in those days, but a better burn is cleaner in this case). I'm happy if I can get a good (preferrably Bosch) platinum plug with a single electrode, but no more than two electrodes. My 2�. Cheers, Bruce motorbruce >From: David Brodbeck <gull@GULL.US> >Reply-To: David Brodbeck <gull@GULL.US> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >Subject: Re: vanagon single electrode plugs >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 15:07:04 -0400 > >Aristotle Sagan wrote: >>Can any one of you back up a single statement that you have made? >> >>I thought not. I put spark plug theories in the same catagory as DOT3/4 >>musings, holed cat superstitions, .91 Octane beliefs, etc., etc. > >Well, yes. But I'd argue that considering that multi-electrode plugs >didn't even exist yet when the Vanagon's engine was designed, its >ignition system must have been designed to work okay with conventional >plugs. > >To some extent I regard the multiple-electrode plugs as a scam; the >spark will ionize the path of least resistance and all the current will >go through that path. It will never fork to multiple electrodes the way >the Splitfire ads show it. > >-- > >David Brodbeck, N8SRE >'82 VW Diesel Westfalia >'86 Volvo 240DL wagon
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